[Imc-africa] Re: [IMC-Print] update and translation of IMC hand book

[ferry Ben]

hi, its a intresting book, i do believe i have my
critiques about it. I think the one pointed out at the
end of the email was a good one..but maybe this could
be send to a global list to be discussed etc...i was
wondering bout the payemente of the translation
work..where is the money comming from??
from imc urbana? is it a imc payed work?
i dont understand this part...maybe someone who is
organizing the project could explam that part
tx
toya


--- valentine V eben <vally_x at lycos.com> wrote:
> Hi all!  from our discussion in January and Febuary
> in process and continued in print we did print the
> handbook materials as was proposed and amended.
> For those who are new to process and print, this
> handbook is an attempt at producing a hardcopy of
> http://newimc.indymedia.org, of course including the
> updated text from the twiki pages. The idea is to
> provide a print version of what indymedia
> is-internal processes and how to be involved.
> IMC-UC covered the cost of the first printing.
> 
> TRANSLATION AND DISTRIBUTION
> Presently there is a discussion with UCIMC(IGAP) and
> Seattle IMC(GSF) on translation and more
> distribution.
> Dri from imc-Brasil is trying to coordinate
> translation.
> At the moment it seems Mike from schNEWS is also
> into  translation into spanish. Sherri is talking
> with 
> Luz from imc-Chiapas she too may be into assisting
> with the  spanish translation. Dri will surely be
> taking charge of portuguese translation. 
> We need more people to help with translation in
> other languages. We also need to discuss about how
> to handle distribution especially for those who are
> trying to organise imcs in areas without much online
> access. Again the place for this is
> imc-print at lists.indymedia.org
> 
> PROPOSALS FOR UPDATING THE FIRST EDITION
> -1.)There have been a proposal to update the
> documentation to included the recent changes that
> came into place since the womyn proposal. Which
> includes changes on the application form. There was
> a discussion to have the womyn proposal be included
> in membership Criteria and or in Principles of
> unity. If there is any other place other than the
> link below where this proposal have been included in
> the  
> network documentation please mail the link to
> imc-print.
> -2.) There was also the proposal to include a small
> introduction/howto on twiki in future editions of
> the book.
> -3.)There was the proposal to include what
> mainstream media say about indymedia in the next
> edition.
> Please we are inviting people to take a while and
> look at the book as it is and to join the discussion
> on changes and improvements need in the next
> editions, in imc-print. 
> 
> 
> DISCUSSIONS SINCE THE PRINTING OF THE FIRST EDITION
> Some activists have complained that thought the book
> contains material from indymedia online resources
> put together as a printed version of the network
> online documentation IT IS NOT CORRECT TO HAVE
> WRITTEN ON THE BOOK
>  PRINTED BY INDYMEDIA. The activists in question
> think that though there was a presentation to
> process and a discussion in print, it was all about
> the content. That this presentation did not make
> clear that it will be written on the book "published
> by indymedia" though the content is a print version
> of indymedia online text. The point was that it
> gives the book too much authority, that such a
> decision  needed to be arrived at from a network
> consensus.
> The other side of the argument is that writing on
> the book that it was published by indymedia was to
> give credit for the book where it belongs-indymedia
> network, which have right to the content on
> http://newimc.indymedia.org.
> Well I'll ask that you take time off and read
> atleast the introduction page of the book in the
> link below and give your opinion what you think on
> this issue preferable in process. 
> 
> 
> -Links to download book
> http://www.hedonistpress.com/indymedia/    
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/twiki/pub/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK/v1.1.pdf
> -Link to page for book translation 
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK
> -link to newimc form including womyn proposal
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCForm
> -link tp what mainstream media say about indymedia
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/StoriesAboutIndymedia
> 
> 
> 
> --------- Original Message ---------
> 
> DATE: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:47:42
> From: "dri" <dri at indymedia.org>
> To: imc-print at lists.indymedia.org
> Cc: 
> 
> >oi,
> >
> >since the discussion about the imc book is going on
> here i felt i should
> >subscribe to get involved and check the status of
> the project.
> >
> >i added a link to some ideas about trasnlations
> into other languages here:
> >
>
>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK
> >
> >for those who don't know me, i'm a olunteer of imc
> brazil, involved in the
> >indy world since june 2001.
> >
> >peace,
> >
> >dri
> 
> 
> 
>
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