[Imc-africa] Re: [IMC-Print] update and translation of IMC hand book

Mon Apr 26 13:01:52 PDT 2004

Hi there
you said :
> ...they have the English and French
> version..........

I have been looking for the French version on the twiki page for 
translation coordination and did not find it
Please give me the link to the translation (I have already started to 
translate "A New Model" !.......)

Thanks
JJ


imc-africa-bounces at lists.indymedia.org wrote on 26/04/2004 13:07:39:

> Hello All
> >From all of the discussions, it appears to have caught
> the interest of a number of people all for a positive
> outcome.
> However so many questions remain unanswered. 
> 
> 1.) I wrote to the list indicating that the first
> draft of the book was used at the Senegal-Dakar
> conference and that its use was not so clear.
> That we get feedback from the participants-those
> teaching and those learning as to the value of this
> booklet-before more money and energy is spent on what
> could be a white elephant.....this mail was never
> posted onto the list and I am writing it again.
> 
> 2.) I have been contacted serveral times by the new
> forming Senegal group who have no idea how practically
> to use the book...they have the English and French
> version.......... all the African delegates who
> attended the Dakar conference took away with them a cd
> with the book on it........I believe they should also
> contribute to the feedback discussion.......it is the
> goal target/users who should benefit the most from its
> publication.
> 
> NeBe
> I/we have had many request 
> That means 
> --- ferry Ben <la_toyax at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > hi, its a intresting book, i do believe i have my
> > critiques about it. I think the one pointed out at
> > the
> > end of the email was a good one..but maybe this
> > could
> > be send to a global list to be discussed etc...i was
> > wondering bout the payemente of the translation
> > work..where is the money comming from??
> > from imc urbana? is it a imc payed work?
> > i dont understand this part...maybe someone who is
> > organizing the project could explam that part
> > tx
> > toya
> > 
> > 
> > --- valentine V eben <vally_x at lycos.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all!  from our discussion in January and
> > Febuary
> > > in process and continued in print we did print the
> > > handbook materials as was proposed and amended.
> > > For those who are new to process and print, this
> > > handbook is an attempt at producing a hardcopy of
> > > http://newimc.indymedia.org, of course including
> > the
> > > updated text from the twiki pages. The idea is to
> > > provide a print version of what indymedia
> > > is-internal processes and how to be involved.
> > > IMC-UC covered the cost of the first printing.
> > > 
> > > TRANSLATION AND DISTRIBUTION
> > > Presently there is a discussion with UCIMC(IGAP)
> > and
> > > Seattle IMC(GSF) on translation and more
> > > distribution.
> > > Dri from imc-Brasil is trying to coordinate
> > > translation.
> > > At the moment it seems Mike from schNEWS is also
> > > into  translation into spanish. Sherri is talking
> > > with 
> > > Luz from imc-Chiapas she too may be into assisting
> > > with the  spanish translation. Dri will surely be
> > > taking charge of portuguese translation. 
> > > We need more people to help with translation in
> > > other languages. We also need to discuss about how
> > > to handle distribution especially for those who
> > are
> > > trying to organise imcs in areas without much
> > online
> > > access. Again the place for this is
> > > imc-print at lists.indymedia.org
> > > 
> > > PROPOSALS FOR UPDATING THE FIRST EDITION
> > > -1.)There have been a proposal to update the
> > > documentation to included the recent changes that
> > > came into place since the womyn proposal. Which
> > > includes changes on the application form. There
> > was
> > > a discussion to have the womyn proposal be
> > included
> > > in membership Criteria and or in Principles of
> > > unity. If there is any other place other than the
> > > link below where this proposal have been included
> > in
> > > the 
> > > network documentation please mail the link to
> > > imc-print.
> > > -2.) There was also the proposal to include a
> > small
> > > introduction/howto on twiki in future editions of
> > > the book.
> > > -3.)There was the proposal to include what
> > > mainstream media say about indymedia in the next
> > > edition.
> > > Please we are inviting people to take a while and
> > > look at the book as it is and to join the
> > discussion
> > > on changes and improvements need in the next
> > > editions, in imc-print. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > DISCUSSIONS SINCE THE PRINTING OF THE FIRST
> > EDITION
> > > Some activists have complained that thought the
> > book
> > > contains material from indymedia online resources
> > > put together as a printed version of the network
> > > online documentation IT IS NOT CORRECT TO HAVE
> > > WRITTEN ON THE BOOK
> > >  PRINTED BY INDYMEDIA. The activists in question
> > > think that though there was a presentation to
> > > process and a discussion in print, it was all
> > about
> > > the content. That this presentation did not make
> > > clear that it will be written on the book
> > "published
> > > by indymedia" though the content is a print
> > version
> > > of indymedia online text. The point was that it
> > > gives the book too much authority, that such a
> > > decision  needed to be arrived at from a network
> > > consensus.
> > > The other side of the argument is that writing on
> > > the book that it was published by indymedia was to
> > > give credit for the book where it
> > belongs-indymedia
> > > network, which have right to the content on
> > > http://newimc.indymedia.org.
> > > Well I'll ask that you take time off and read
> > > atleast the introduction page of the book in the
> > > link below and give your opinion what you think on
> > > this issue preferable in process. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Links to download book
> > > http://www.hedonistpress.com/indymedia/ 
> > >
> >
> http://docs.indymedia.
> org/twiki/pub/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK/v1.1.pdf
> > > -Link to page for book translation 
> > >
> >
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK
> > > -link to newimc form including womyn proposal
> > > http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCForm
> > > -link tp what mainstream media say about indymedia
> > >
> >
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/StoriesAboutIndymedia
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --------- Original Message ---------
> > > 
> > > DATE: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:47:42
> > > From: "dri" <dri at indymedia.org>
> > > To: imc-print at lists.indymedia.org
> > > Cc: 
> > > 
> > > >oi,
> > > >
> > > >since the discussion about the imc book is going
> > on
> > > here i felt i should
> > > >subscribe to get involved and check the status of
> > > the project.
> > > >
> > > >i added a link to some ideas about trasnlations
> > > into other languages here:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK
> > > >
> > > >for those who don't know me, i'm a olunteer of
> > imc
> > > brazil, involved in the
> > > >indy world since june 2001.
> > > >
> > > >peace,
> > > >
> > > >dri
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
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