[Imc-africa] Senegalese Conference Delegates

Glenda Loebell glloebell at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 28 05:18:56 PST 2004


Dear All
Beautiful people and hospitality none to beat for a
long time.

We are please to have organised the official
invitations for the delegates coming from Africa. 
Faxed to  Shpinx Friday 27th Feb. 2005 14:00 to
Germany. Official invitation from the University of
DAKAR and the hosting department-Economics/Prof.
We trust  your purchasing of tickets and organising
visas permit you to take part.
The conference was planned for the 1  to 14th March
2004.
Shpinx has informed us that the African delegation
will be travelling and arriving on the 7th-is this
confirmed? 
Shpinx informed us that 2 indymedia people will be
arriving from Germay- please contact us as INDYMEDIA
people are vital to be a part of the actual workshop
content. Chrisie and Andrea our telephone no. is on
the site.
It is a holiday so the programme can be altered to
start on the 3rd March to give the INDYMEDIA peopel
time to get together and to getbe familar with some of
the circumstances and to be a part of the planning.

I met with Aziz who while having links and contact to
Rafel has no idea who and what INDYMEDIA is or how it
functions. 
He was for the first time  26/2/04 contacted by Shpinx
with a request to find 
1) place for the conference, (with full knowledge that
this was all been arranged and all the final details
were being put into place) 
2) a place for the african people to sleep (we could
not undertake this task)
3) arrangements for food(we could not undertake this
tasks)

We were informed by Aziz that this three tasks were
difficult to arrange as he did not have details such
as how many people exactly, what kind of money is
available for living and food.
He was happily suprised to hear that the venue for the
workshops, information to students and interested
people is going out this week end and Monday. We are
expecting up to 50 people who have expressed interest.
We have also arranged computer/techn rooms for content
workshop.
Here Rafel has aggreed to come in and run a
workshop-6th Feb.04 but said he can only do it on this
day.

As I see this, without INDYMEDIA people who have  the
know how from a content point of view WE WILL be
letting down so many students and other parties from
all sectors who have been eager to get to know INDY
people, share information and to learn from each
other.

So the next question is: 
WHERE ARE THE CARAVAN PEOPLE AS THEY WILL HAVE THE
EQUIPMENT/ KNOWLEDGE AND WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT 
WITH WORKSHOPS- this has been planned for 6th -11th
March 2004  
IKEN FABIAN TUNKERT AND OTHERS PLEASE CALL WE NEED
YOUR HELP TO SALVAGE THIS PLANNED EVENT. WE CANNOT LET
AFRICA DOWN

OUR TELE PHONE NO IS ON THE SITE
We have no confirmed date for Shyinx's arrival.

We need to coordinate, to meet before the planned
actions and parties.

AZIZ, RAFEL,  SHPINX, CHRISTIE? ANDREA? & NEBE so far
this is the group that are in some contact with each
other. Who else is in contact with each other?
HERE IN DAKAR
NeBe/Glenda
--- sphinx <sphinx at indymedia.org> wrote:
> Hi Again Grace!
> I'll try to answer your questions the best i can. I
> hope the answers are
> satisfactory but 
> just should incase you do not understand any of the
> answers well or feel you
> still need to 
> know something in particular do not hesitate to ask
> again.
> While in the begining all of these details were part
> of the discussion,  as the
> days when 
> by and the prospects of getting funds to pay the
> transport of the African
> delegates started 
> fading away those details moved away from the cnetre
> of the discussion. 
> 
> > Where shall we be staying?
> Michaela, Maureen and Glenda who had been at the
> forefront of organising
> contacts in Dakar
>  are putting up at the university for a little fee ,
> while  trying to organise
> for the 
> university to provide us some places to sleep for
> Free.
> The other option is to rent a cheap house and all
> lodge there together till the
> end of the
>  conference.There is also information of people who
> had been with the tour since
> October 
> when it started in Spain. With Wagonsand big tents. 
> All of these while being important was a bit pushed
> to the background by the
> more pressing
>  issue of delgates transport to Dakar. Keep your
> eyes open in the list in the
> next twodays
>  the should be a more concrete answer on lodging.
> 
> >Is this paid for?
> If some one wishes to stay at the university special
> hostel, it cost 5Euro for a
> person and
>  two persons per room . This is to be paid for by
> the individual  themselves.
> We are going to organised a conference lodging space
> where delegates will have
> to stay 
> without them having to pay for it. That is we'll pay
> the space from the funds we
> have left
>  (which is enough to rent an apartment for the two
> weeks of conference :-)).
> We had indicated at the very onset of the discussion
> about the tour that lead to
> this 
> conference that people with sleeping bags should
> bring them along to reduce the
> worries 
> of providing sleeping gear for all.
> 
> >Will we have any daily allowance to cater  for our
> personal needs?
> No, we do not have funds to afford to provide any
> daily allowance. We'll have a
> donation
>  box where those who wish could donate into, but not
> for use in providing
> allowance, 
> rather to improve on the net situation of the entire
> group.
> We are making arrangements to be able to cook our
> food ourselves. But those who 
> wish can get Food too for low prices at the
> university canteen.
> 
>  Who is paying for  local transport?
> I do not think that in the frame of the conference
> we'll have to be displacing
> ourselves
>  too much , thus the need for a local transport
> bill. If thinks works out with the 
> university lodging arrangement, we may have our
> lodging/conference in a few minutes 
> walking distance. With all the uncertainty about
> funds for the transportation of
> the 
> African delegates that existed, till late last week
> and early this week one
> could not 
> focus on these details.   
> 
> > How many women are attending?
> I do not know exactly becuase there are some people
> coming with the tour group
> that has been
>  on tour since October 2003. This far there is
> Glenda, Maurine and  Micheala in
> Dakar since 
> Monday. Chrisi and Andrea are flying down on monday.
> You are flying down on the
> 8, if 
> everything works out we may have an other comrade
> flying in arround the 7th.
>  But I know that there is at least one woman with
> the group that has been on tour 
> since october.
> 
> > What are the language arrangements? Shall we have
> translators?
> Glenda, Micheala and Maurine are trying to get some
> students from the university
> help out 
> with translation. But if that does not work we will
> try to deal with that the
> best we can
> ourselves. We are going to have the indymedia
> handbook which is in English and
> we have a
>  french version of some of the main indymedia
> network documentation. In short we
> will get
>  mostly French and English like working languages.
> Sphinx
> Quoting Grace Waita <gracewaita at yahoo.co.in>:
> 
> > 
> >  Thanks Sphinx:
> > Very much appreciate your keeping me updated about
> the latest arrangements. I
> > will await further information about the ticket
> and the money you said you
> > will be sending by Monday at the latest to pay for
> the ticket.
> > I just wanted to have more details about the
> logistics of the conference
> > itself.
> > Where shall we be staying? Is this paid for? Will
> we have any daily allowance
> > to cater  for our personal needs? Who is paying
> for  local transport? I am
> > asking all these questions because we found out
> about this conference at the
> > last minute and had obviously not budgeted for it.
> Quite frankly we have no
> > funds and that is why it is important to know.
> > How many women are attending?
> > What are the language arrangements? Shall we have
> translators?
> > Grace
> >  
> >   sphinx &lt;sphinx at indymedia.org&gt; wrote: Hello
> Grace! Good to hear from
> > you. The point is the Berlin based foundation
> > that sellected to pay your tranport and the
> transport of some other
> > activists
> > from our complete list of delegates have a couple
> of rules.
> > 
> > One is that if we wish to recieved their donation
> as quasi-cash then we need
> > to
> > make the application only through a registered
> foundation. And since the
> > foundation I do my other political work with meets
> only on the first week
> > of
> > every month to take a decision on issues like
> that, then it could be late
> > with
> > you and the other delegates making the trip to
> Dakar on time. 
> > Thus the acceptable option for them and possible
> for us was to look for a
> > travel
> > agency that can issue tickets for all of your who
> were selected and send
> > the
> > bill directly to the foundation who then handles
> the finanacial transaction
> > with
> > them. So there is no extra money from them that
> could be sent to you.
> > Basically we have been into trying to see to
> cordinate that with traveling
> > agencies in Africa. The extra problem for kenya is
> that there is no cheap
> > flight
> > from Kenya to Dakar.
> > 
> > And to make it posslbie for you us to get cheap
> flights you have to connect
> > flight witha couple of agencies which makes it
> impossible for you the ticket
> > to
> > be retrieved in Niarobi. There isthe option of
> buying the various pieces of
> 
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