[Imc-africa] Senegalese Conference Delegates

[sphinx]

Hello NeBe/Glenda
I did understand the English words in your mail but hardly understood the 
intention. On the one hand it is as if you are trying to inform people 
 of the state of things in Dakar, on the other hand you seem to want to 
complain but I do not get about what and to who.

You have been in this list all along and have followed the discussions about 
the difficulties and lack of funds to pay  the transport of the African 
delegates,
and it was clear if we do not get funds for that then it makes no sense for 
people to travel to Dakar. Which complain you made as well to me.
This worried made me to write the mail here so that anyone who could have 
raised any funds should inform all on the list so we know if it is possible to 
may be consider sending just three African delegates.

http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000158.html

  I even talked that with you on the phone many times about how terrible it 
will be if we do not get funds for the delegates. I wrote you a private mail 
some three days before you left for Dakar asking you if you guys succeeded to 
raise any funds  so we could see how many of the African delegates we can 
afford to pay their transport and got no reply from you.
 This uncertainty about funds to cover the transport of delegates lead to the 
following mails:
>From Libby
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000155.html
>From Acracia
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000164.html

My mail SUMMARISING developments on HOW IS GOING TO DAKAR
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000178.html


Quoting Glenda Loebell <glloebell at yahoo.com>:

> Dear All
> Beautiful people and hospitality none to beat for a
> long time.
> 
> We are please to have organised the official
> invitations for the delegates coming from Africa. 
> Faxed to  Shpinx Friday 27th Feb. 2005 14:00 to
> Germany. Official invitation from the University of
> DAKAR and the hosting department-Economics/Prof.
> We trust  your purchasing of tickets and organising
> visas permit you to take part.
> The conference was planned for the 1  to 14th March
> 2004.
> Shpinx has informed us that the African delegation
> will be travelling and arriving on the 7th-is this
> confirmed? 
> Shpinx informed us that 2 indymedia people will be
> arriving from Germay- please contact us as INDYMEDIA
> people are vital to be a part of the actual workshop
> content. Chrisie and Andrea our telephone no. is on
> the site.

No! You did not understand correctly, Chrisie and 
Andreas while being activists and coming down to Dakar on 
their personal cost are NOT directly involved 
in indymedia. I explain that clearly to Micheala
 on the phone. 

> It is a holiday so the programme can be altered to
> start on the 3rd March to give the INDYMEDIA peopel
> time to get together and to getbe familar with some of
> the circumstances and to be a part of the planning.
> 
> I met with Aziz who while having links and contact to
> Rafel has no idea who and what INDYMEDIA is or how it
> functions. 

That is not CORRECT. AZIZ is involved with indymedia Estrecho

> He was for the first time  26/2/04 contacted by Shpinx
> with a request to find 
> 1) place for the conference, (with full knowledge that
> this was all been arranged and all the final details
> were being put into place) 
> 2) a place for the african people to sleep (we could
> not undertake this task)
> 3) arrangements for food(we could not undertake this
> tasks)
> 
> We were informed by Aziz that this three tasks were
> difficult to arrange as he did not have details such
> as how many people exactly, what kind of money is
> available for living and food.
> He was happily suprised to hear that the venue for the
> workshops, information to students and interested
> people is going out this week end and Monday. We are
> expecting up to 50 people who have expressed interest.
> We have also arranged computer/techn rooms for content
> workshop.
> Here Rafel has aggreed to come in and run a
> workshop-6th Feb.04 but said he can only do it on this
> day.
> 
> As I see this, without INDYMEDIA people who have  the
> know how from a content point of view WE WILL be
> letting down so many students and other parties from
> all sectors who have been eager to get to know INDY
> people, share information and to learn from each
> other.

 It will be sad for people eager to know about indyemdia 
miss a chance to do so. But what I do not understand is
How could you have made this kind of planning when I had 
written this mail to the list clarifying the state of things??
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000178.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000180.html

Sphinx


 
> So the next question is: 
> WHERE ARE THE CARAVAN PEOPLE AS THEY WILL HAVE THE
> EQUIPMENT/ KNOWLEDGE AND WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT 
> WITH WORKSHOPS- this has been planned for 6th -11th
> March 2004  
> IKEN FABIAN TUNKERT AND OTHERS PLEASE CALL WE NEED
> YOUR HELP TO SALVAGE THIS PLANNED EVENT. WE CANNOT LET
> AFRICA DOWN
> 
> OUR TELE PHONE NO IS ON THE SITE
> We have no confirmed date for Shyinx's arrival.
> 
> We need to coordinate, to meet before the planned
> actions and parties.
> 
> AZIZ, RAFEL,  SHPINX, CHRISTIE? ANDREA? & NEBE so far
> this is the group that are in some contact with each
> other. Who else is in contact with each other?
> HERE IN DAKAR
> NeBe/Glenda
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