[Imc-africa] clarifying imc-finance request

[Jay]

Hi there,

Below is an inquiry from Joeri from the imc-finance list asking for 
clarification on how much money imc-africa needs for travel for the 
conference.


>X-Apparently-To: jaypsand at yahoo.com via 216.109.117.231; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 
>14:24:27 -0800
>
>
>hey,
>
>sorry to only reply this late
>
>i think it's needed to be more specific about the amount of money; i know 
>it's difficult to give an exact amount as you're still very busy in 
>fundraising, but for us it's even more difficult to set an amount 
>(therefore i didn't set it as a proposal yet)
>
>as on new year's day (this is the latest info i received) our bank balance 
>contained $21,679.15, but with still some donations to process (at least 
>$5,654),
>giving the biggest part of the needed money for the project would have big 
>consequences for imc-finance (altough i think this conference is really 
>important and i think it's very important that we help getting the money 
>together if needed)
>
>so i suggest to (if possible) try to get an idea of the amount still 
>needed, so we can put it in a proposal for finance
>
>other ideas on this?
>
>greets
>sorry for the delay
>joeri

There seems to be concern that imc-africa is asking for too much money, at 
least if we don't raise any more for the conference (which won't happen, of 
course).  Perhaps we can clarify a bit.

Right now we have a great list of delegates intending to come from around 
Africa.  Some IMCs are interested in sending more than one, which is 
great.  At the very least we should do our best to get at least one person 
from each IMC to be able to come to Senegal.  What if we ask imc-finance 
formally for enough money to get at least one person from each of the 
interested IMC groups to get to the conference?  Then we could have a firm, 
manageable amount.

That would be:

1from South Africa  = 877 Euro
1 from Ambazonia =   750 Euro
1 from Congo =         1200 Euro
1 from Angola =        1100  Euro
1 from Kenya =          1100 Euro
1 from Madiaq =            450

Total:   5477 Euro

Plus, 533 Euro to help pay for expenses in Senegal.  Total = 6000 Euro.

If they release 6000 Euro to pay for the tickets immediately that will 
assure the conference will have representation from at least 6 African 
IMCs, plus Senegal.  That will be great!

As for the fear from imc-finance that we're asking for too much, perhaps we 
can tell IMC finance that we'll pay them back "33 cents on the 
dollar."  Meaning, if we raise 9,000 Euro toward the conference, we'll pay 
imc-finance back 3000 Euro of what they lent.  If we raise 15000 Euro we'll 
pay them back 5000 Euro.  In other words, imc-finance will assure the 
conference will happen.  We will make sure imc-finance doesn't have to be 
afraid we'll drain all their money.

How does this sound?

Jay


>sphinx wrote:
>
>>Imc-Africa Working group is asking imc-finance to support with the fairs 
>>of the
>>African delegates, food and stationery for the Dakar Conference .
>>-In the coming days we'll continue with trying to raise funds through other
>>sources. We appeal to all the activts as well as imcs in this list to use 
>>their
>>know-how in helping us in this process of fund raising as well as 
>>spreading the
>>information to potential sources of support.
>>-We will implore the imc-finance working group to treat this as an 
>>application
>>for funds. That is 3days tranlation, 14days discussion(dateline is then 3rd
>>february2004).
>>All funds that we happen to get in the interim, we'll inform imc-finance 
>>about
>>and hope imc-finance  can  make up the needed amount. Every funds that We 
>>shall
>>get in the interim shall go first for the tickets.  This is all meant to
>>catch-up with time as most of the African delegates need to get visas to 
>>go to
>>Senegal.
>>-We are pleading with all imcs to put a temporary donation link(button) 
>>in this
>>respect on their various websites.
>>
>>Details:
>>
>>The Dakar Conference
>>
>>In the four years since indymedia started in Seattle in 1999, it  has 
>>succeeded
>>to make a mostest impact on the media worlds as a whole and in the political
>>left scene in particular.
>>Much of the build-up have taken place in the global North thanks to the well
>>developed multimedia infrastructure. Which allows for both quick and 
>>cheap production of media content. Yet indymedias in South
>>America have made substantial progress despite poor multimedia 
>>infrastructure.
>>This characteristic growth being partly due to existing social support
>>structures developed over the years of social struggles in South America 
>>as well
>>as emphatic support of Global North Activists.
>>In Africa for lots of resons indymedia development has been very   slow. 
>>To give
>>the indymedia growth process in Africa a push, the indymedia Africa working
>>group with other activists groups took upon Organising an 
>>Alternative(indymedia)
>>Conference in Dakar from the 1st to the 14th March 2004. Delegates will 
>>be coming from ; South Africa, Ambazonia (Ex-British Southern Cameroons), 
>>DRCongo, Angola, Kenya, Madiaq (South Spain and
>>Morocco), Nertherland, Germany, Switzerland, UK and USA. Three quarters 
>>of the
>>delegates will be from Africa. The main point of the Conference will be 
>>to exchange experiences and try to
>>figure-out the way forward with indymedia in Africa despite the lack of 
>>suitable
>>social support structures and multimedia infrastructure.
>>This undertaking is now threatened by the lack of funds to cover the fairs of
>>the African Delegates and basic needs for the conference . We are hereby 
>>soliciting for donations to support the Conference.
>>Donations can be sent by paypal.com to imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
>>
>>or by bank transfer to : Zentralkultur e.V Account No: 269 35 70 
>>BLZ/Bankcode     60050101 S.W.I.F.T-code   SOLASDEST Password: indymedia 
>>Africa Landesbank Baden-Wurttemberg Germany
>>For those who need  receipts for tax deductions please indicate by email 
>>to imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
>>We'll greatly appreciate any contribution no-matter how small . 
>>IMC-Africa Working group.
>>
>>
>>
>>Update of the situation:
>>-Fair situation for the moment looks as follows:
>>3South Africa = 877*3= 2631 Euro 3Ambazonia(Ex-British Southern 
>>Cameroons)=750*3= 2250 Euro 1 DRCongo =1200 Euro 2 Angola =1100*2=2200 
>>Euro 3Kenya=1100*3=3300 Euro 2Madiaq(Spain and Morocco) = 450 *2=900 Euro 
>>Total= 12481 Euro
>>
>>-Feeding and stationery for the 14days of the conference will cost at least
>>1300Euros.
>>
>>TOTAL=12481+1300=15481 Euros
>>
>>-Materials for use in workshops:
>>.Bak from Imc-ch is bring a computer with a portable content management 
>>system
>>and a host of other software. .Tony from imc-uk is also going to send us 
>>some videos and some other meterials.
>>In the worst case scenerio this may be all we may have like equipment ´; thus
>>the best way to increase the utility will be to connect them to a projector.
>>Thus we desperately need a projector as well as a printer.
>>
>>---original list of needs was :
>>
>>-A beamer /projector
>>1.-Five computers (at least) 2.-Three video recording machines and a 
>>video editting machine. 100 video
>>cassettes. 3.-Three mini-disc recorder/audio recording machines. 200 
>>pieces of
>>mini-disc/tapes. 4.-Three printers. 5.-5 small radio transmitters. 6.- 10 
>>video cassettes of films made by other indymedia video working groups to
>>be used in screening . Software needs 1.-We need to ask indymedia-tech to 
>>load the computers for use in the tour with
>>one of the many freesoftware Operating System. 2.-Need a portable version 
>>of an indymedia production system which allows
>>articles and other content to be published and produced on the computer 
>>without
>>internet connection. 3.-We need an easy to use audio editing program. 
>>4.-We need an easy to use video editing program. 5.-We need an easy to 
>>use lay-out program.
>>
>>
>>
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