[Imc-africa] IMC SA to Dakar

Wed Mar 3 05:52:26 PST 2004

Hi all Hi Ofege! Don't  mine my wierd name there are lots of such wierd 
names you will meet in any project with lots of stuff done online that is part
of it. You will surely be very amused the names you'll meet in indymedia; one of
the main person to run workshops when you are in Dakar for the conference is
call "ratmole". Well that is just one lil example.But when it comes to the 
indymedia projects some of these people with wierd names put their all to make 
it work as well as stay by the original principles on which it is based.

Some of you where registered late in this list and do not have imformation of
previous discussions. 

Ofege I do not see what you need 1000 Dollars for. 

You and all the delegates are going to be staying at an apartment into which
Andea and Chrisi will be moving in tomorrow. The rentage has already been paid.

There is money provided to cover feeding for the entire time you guys will be
there for the conference.

There is money to pay for the taxi to pick you guys at the airport on arrival.

You do not need any 1000Dollars, what for ??

If you wish to read about all the discussions that have been going on in this
list before you were included  check the list archives avaliable on this link below:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/

Sphinx

Quoting Ofege Ntemfac <ntemfacofege at yahoo.com>:

> Hello Everyone, Greetings from Cameroon. My name is Ofege, Ntemfac Ofege.
> While being most appreciative to the Sphinx (wierd name) for considering us
> (Franklin and your humble servant) I totally agree with Mr Onyango Oloo's
> observation regarding arrangements, etc. 
> Valentine are you telling me that I have to look for something like
> 500.000FCFA (1000 DOLLARS!) within 72H just to be on the safe side and attend
> this IMPORTANT seminar..You can hear my scream right to Mt Kilimanjaro...I
> appreciate the efforts to get me a ticket though but, listen man...where's
> the money at?
> newkenya at riseup.net wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> This is Onyango Oloo from Indymedia Kenya. I must say that things look
> very murky and disorganized, but maybe it is just me being out of the loop
> a bit. We got this message about this conference, were quite excited about
> the fact that there were a total of 3 berths for Kenya. Anyways we have
> since had that due to funding only one person can travel. We do not have a
> problem with that.
> 
> I am quite concerned about the logistics. We had NOT planned for this
> conference and therefore we did not have any money set aside for this. We
> are grateful that a return ticket for Grace has been found. But people
> must understand, and we have no shame in saying this, not everyone in
> Africa can cough up visa fees at the last minute. It may look likea tiny
> fraction to people from the North, but here is where Southern realities
> kick in.
> 
> But that is not even what I am worried about. I am pretty sure, that from
> where I am here in Canada I can contribute towards the costs of our
> delegate Grace.
> 
> I have been shocked to learn that people are organizing a conference
> bringing people from all over the world and THERE ARE NO FIRM SLEEPING
> ARRANGEMENTS! The idea of sharing tents and sleeping bags sounds cute but
> very impractical for people who have never had to sleep in a tent once in
> their lives! I guess there is always a first time, but I would suggest
> that perhaps there should be some transition- like someone going camping
> first in their neighbourhood before flying out of the country for the
> first time to enjoy this outdoor experience. There are issues of personal
> safety etc that must be addressed. Again, if it is going to be a
> multilingual conference, there should be some kind of an idea of how the
> sesssions will be run.
> 
> I really think that we should address these and other concerns before the
> conference commences, otherwise we are staring at a fiasco.
> 
> Onyango Oloo
> Indymedia Kenya
> Montreal, Quebec
> 
> >
> > Hi NeBe, Africa Outreach? Mostly a mystery to me but Sphinx seemed to be
> > querying someone in a previous mail for progress from the project (as if
> > he's not the co-ordinator).
> >
> > The link to the conference status report that Sphinx posted to you
> >
> (http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000178.html)
> > confirms that "umverteiling", the foundation funding the conference, is
> > not covering IMC SA or John from Kenya. So how it is that John has
> > confirmed his attendance, I don't really know. My expectation now has to
> > be that indymdia sa attendance is unlikely.
> >
> > regards
> > nicolas
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), African IMCs and the imc project
> > in Africa said:
> >>Thanks for sharing that information.
> >>This is news. Though sad who made the decision?
> >>I just got a mail from John who said he will be
> >>here-do you know what is going on?
> >>
> >>Yes the organisation is frantic and disorganised due
> >>to many factors-we must talk about it- and I would
> >>like to suggest that an evaluation of the whole
> >>process is documented.
> >>Indymedia advocates non hieracy and formal consenses
> >>but the understanding of it in the everyday needs to
> >>be cleared.
> >>
> >>Organising of this size needs advanced planning, this
> >>is evident not only here but everywhere.
> >>People here in DAKAR are not appreciating the last
> >>minute telephone calls with instructions and contacts
> >>without forward notice.
> >>
> >>I am still not clear if this process(africa outreach)
> >>has a coordinator and if who and how was the person
> >>appointed. Is Shyinx that person?
> >>Perhaps you may have answers to all these
> >>uncertainties.
> >>
> >>These are questions being asked of us here.
> >>
> >>NeBe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- nicolas dieltiens wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hello all, in the midst of frantic organising for
> >>> the conference, I'm required to mention that I'd be
> >>> the delegate for IMC SA. But on hearing that the
> >>> foundation funding the travel costs of African
> >>> delegates would not be covering IMC SA or John from
> >>> Kenya, I'm not sure whether it's worth the mention.
> >>> But here it is.
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