[Imc-africa] SA Delegate to Dakar Conference

[sphinx]

Dear pvh and imc-Southafrica! As you probably know from all the mails I send to
your lists, before for close to 8months we've been involved in preparing for an
indymeedia regional meeting in Africa, Dakar-Senegal from the 1st to the 14th
March2004. 
 
Fund raising effords gave us close to 2800EUR as you can see in the archives of
the imc-africa Working Group list. As we were just starting to give-up hope and
focus on getting say two or three people to Dakar we got a response from a
Berlin based foundation (umverteilung) in which they selected five delgates from
our list of delegates and opted to pay their transport.  
 
There after we were left with the 1st group from Kenya and indymedia SA who did
not  have a representative  to the conference. For which I wrote to you as well
as to the 1st group of Kenya asking for the name of a delegate so we could pay
their transport from the 2900EUR, to allow for all groups to at least have a
representative in Dakar.  
    
I'm writing to you again to ask you to send the name of your Delegate for the
conference, as the main part of the conference starts but monday the 8th. And
luckily you do not need a visa.  
Sphinx from imc-Ambazonia, imc-Germany, imc-Africa working group and new-imc
working Group. 
 
.maill asking for  SA delegate: 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-sa/2004-February/001069.html 
 
 
In the time being I should say there is Mr.Nicolas Dieltiens who had written
once to the African list to say imc-South Africa will take it's three places for
the conference and we all thought he was really talking for SA.  
 
Before long Mr.Nicolas was throwing around baseless accusations without even
taking a minute to  check them up, even though he could have done so by looking
at the archives of the main network list on the issues which include the
process-list, imc-africa-list or even your own imc-sa list. 
Of course I took it in the begining for one of this computer freaks who carry
over their irritation with the machine to every online communication they
execute. Then it turn-out it was different as Mr.Nicolas  after his first couple
of mails  were responded to with facts, took to the tactics of repeating
questions which had already been answered in a previous mails, which is not a
trait of the pc junky type. 
 
Mr.Nicolas started jubilating that the conference had failed as it seemed we'll
not afford to pay the transportation of the delegates.  
After we got response from the Berlin foundation, I did copy him the mail for a
request for the information of a delegate for SA because he had written to the
imc-africa list saying SA will take their three places. Instead of replying in
the list, he wrote me a personal mail telling me he will represent SA. 
When I asked him if that was a concerns decision from SA or his personal
decision he came up with  his usual rambling on the list. First writing to me
and answering a question I never asked if imc-SA discussed the Dakar conference.
I asked him to write to the list and copy list SA. Instead he wrote to the list
complaining about the foundation not take responsibility for SA tickets and why
John(1st group of imc Kenya) was already confirming that he will make the trip
when it was said the were no tickets for John and SA-delegate. 
 
The curious thing about it all is that even this mail he did not copy any of SA
two list.  
A check of the archives both lists of SA shows that Mr.Nicolas Dieltiens does
not exist in SA at least in the lists archives.  
A further attempt at the elementary of mail tracing showed that the possibility
of his mails coming from SA were close to zero. Since I'm not into playing FBI,
I did not go into more fingering where exactly the mails are coming from.  
 
Haven said, i hope you can then see why his claim that he is with SA or speaking
for SA has not been taken seriously.  
 
 
.mail from Mr.Nicolas Dieltiens jubilating that the conference has failed : 
subject: Dakar or defeat 
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2004-February/000175.html