[Imc-africa] Re:Safe arrival in Kenya, thanks for everything

[sphinx]

Well Chrisi! I just do not have the strength to fight. Getting old.
You got into this thing alot late and surely have not had time to look at the
archives of this list to know where the discussions started.

May be NeBe did not have enough time to tell you that the idea of a Caravan
through Africa was originally my idea. It is even not a new idea my dear
Christi. An almost similar idea was proposed by Winter from IMC-Nigeria long
ago. A great idea but it died becuase of lack of funds for such a project.

At the time the delegates for Dakar were reduced from three(3) per an imc to
one(1) it was already in the direction dakar is to prepare for the next meeting.
Surely you have not looked in the archives so do not know that too. it is OK.

And if you worked on fundraising for Dakar and all the good sounding words 
about professional fundraiser and experts in organising stuff like that etc said
at the time ,then you'll know different.

If you wish to or prefer to participate in an African wide Caravan tour that is
absolutely fine. We have lots of stuff in inymedia going on simultaneously
sometimes. Gerf action and Munich. In july this year Sustainability Conference
in Australia and indymedia European Summerchamp in Croatia and the
Anti-Globalisation film festival in Berlin, as well as the Peoples Global Action
meeting, and surely an other Easter meeting in Asturias Spain, surely an other
meeting from EYFA and alot more. Everyone will chose which they prefer and
participate. it is permitted. 

If you think that Nairobi is not the thing but that an African Tour from Tunis
to Cape town ending in a Conference is the thing, that is fine. On this list 
like on every other indymedia network list. People make proposals or discuss
proposals from others. There after if you have made your point your participate
in th project of your choice as you wish and can ford. 

Dakar is not the first planned indymedia Regional meeting in Africa. it is the
first to hold. The tour is not the first African planned tour. it could be the
first to hold. When Winter proposed it then he had lots of support from some
folks from England and arround the network. But it couldn't work just becuase it
is seen as a good idea. 

Lots of Fun Christi

Sphinx 
  

  

Quoting christina amrhein <thermoskanne2002 at yahoo.de>:

> hello Grace, hello John, nice to hear that you arrived
> well in Kenya. i.m still here, enjoying the last
> hours/days near dakar; for me the conference with you
> and all the other people the organisation and other
> things arround was very interesting and nice and also
> adventureous.and it should be continued in the
> future;But i think it is a bit earlY and maybe
> stupid(sorry but i cant find a better word) to fix a
> date and place for a next conference at this
> time.sphinx!at the conference there were also other
> interesting proposals for a next conference for
> example an african indymedia caravan tour. and maybe
> this should firdt be discussed before putting this
> informations on the list in such a way.a lot of
> greetings to all of you christi
>  --- Grace Waita <gracewaita at yahoo.co.in> schrieb: >
> To all,
> >        Happy to inform all of you that John and I
> > arrived well in Kenya. Wish to also express my
> > sincere thanks to all of you who participated in any
> > and every way, right from organizing the conference
> > to facilitating our attending the same. I must say
> > that for me, the conference was an eye opener to the
> > many opportunities that  we as indymedia have to
> > serve not only Africa but the whole world in the
> > various issues that affect us globally.
> > I have learnt a lot and  am better equipped to
> > accomplish my obligations, thanks to the different
> > facilitators in the conference and congratulations
> > to all of you for a job well done!
> >  For those who were unable to attend, I hope the
> > next event shall be better organized to enable as
> > many as possible to attend.
> >  Gilberto, I hope you've had a safe trip, Chrisi, I
> > hope you have also succeeded to travel back, and to
> > all the rest, all the best and may God bless you.
> >  To   Sphinx, A big THANK YOU! 
> >  
> > Grace.
> > sphinx <sphinx at indymedia.org> wrote:
> > Hehe :-)) Johnny!
> > Good news to know you guys are back. As soon as
> > Chrisi comes back I'll have to
> > make a twiki of after Dakar with information about
> > how it all got to Dakar and
> > after Dakar.
> > 
> > YOU FORGOT TO ANNOUNCE THAT NEXT MEETING IS IN
> > 12MONTHS IN NAIROBI-KENYA
> > 
> > Those who contributed energy wise as well as finance
> > and other moral support for
> > Dakar include a very long list. There was the very
> > intensive discussions it
> > provoked on this list and imc-finance list.
> > There are the activists who threw their energy
> > without reserve behind Dakar like
> > Jay from Philly. Whom in two weeks was able to pull
> > so much interest and got the
> > folks in Philly so involved they donated twice.
> > Accompanied with lil sweet
> > messges that help one going when all seemed blink.
> > 
> > -There is the folks of IGAP of UC-IMC whom in many
> > ways set the pace of things.
> > Without whose support we could have risk a falure as
> > Danny and Sven coming down
> > there would have not been very easy.
> > 
> > -Then the comrades from Berlin who involved
> > "umvertilung" without which it
> > could have been impossible for the African delgates
> > to be in Dakar.
> > 
> > -The comrade from Holland whom in no time pulled
> > XminusY into the project.
> > With their 2500 EUR donation.
> > 
> > -Then the local Imcs who either supported us at the
> > discussions at finance-even
> > though things did not work there- or who sent
> > donations. Small at times but you
> > knew they wanted to do more if they could:
> > 
> > 
> > =NANTES (FRANCE)
> > Hi 
> > 
> > We saw that differents imc of Africa need money to
> > organise a meeting in 
> > Dakar. Imc-nantes wants to make a donation of 50
> > EURuros for that. How can we 
> > 
> > make it ? 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Sieste for Imc-nantes (france)
> > 
> > =CAMBRIDGE (UK) 
> > Donation to support African IMC conference 
> > Transferring on behalf on IMC Cambridge (UK) 
> > Conversion From: 
> > -£47,85 GBP 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > =PHILLY (USA)
> > 
> > Imc-Philly had a fundraiser on Saturday and raised
> > $400 to go toward 
> > conference funds. Not as much as we would have
> > liked, but it was a great 
> > fundraiser and lots of fun.
> > 
> > + more from PhillyIMC for the conference
> > Amount:$65,00 USD 
> > 
> > 
> > =HOUSTON(USA)
> > Hello, 
> > Houston Indymedia approved $100 to donate to your
> > conference about six 
> > weeks ago. However, we mistakenly decided to wait
> > until after our Feb 28 
> > fundraiser to send you the money. Now we've
> > discovered your conference is 
> > almost over. Do you have any remaining
> > conference-related expenses our 
> > $100 help with? 
> > 
> > Best Regards, 
> > 
> > Ratch 
> > houston.indymedia.org
> > 
> > 
> > =MANILLA (PHILIPINE)
> > 
> > Comrade, 
> > 
> > Imagine we have the same name but unfortunately i
> > may not be able to help 
> > you financially considering that my money is not
> > enough for even the 
> > lowest expense that imc-africa needs. Imc-manila
> > also has problems 
> > financially/logistically, But I would be willing to
> > help in otherways. 
> > E-mail me if there are other things that I and
> > manila-indymedia can be of 
> > any help. Really sorry and GOODLUCK!!! 
> > 
> > =MELBOURNE (AUSTRALIA)
> > 
> > -MELB 
> > Amount: 49,00 EUR 
> > Subject: from melb imc 
> > Note: this is all the money we have as a collective
> > right now. but we don't
> > need it. i just wish it was more. in solidarity,
> > melb imc. 
> > 
> > 
> > All of this in alot of ways did make Dakar happen.
> > 
> > Now comes Nairobi. In 12 months one will expect
> > imc-Ambazonia strengthen, most
> > of the imcs that are presently going through the
> > process of becoming approved in
> > newimc most have made it to be come full imcs. Here
> > I'm thinking of imc-Kenya
> > and IMc-Angola. In the same way those which took
> > contact like DRCongo and Mali
> > should hopefully succeed as well or be some way into
> > the process. Hoping we
> > could hear from Senegal soon at Newimc.
> > 
> > The folks from UCIMC are sending some comrades to
> > South Africa in the coming
> > days to be there before the freedom from Apatheried
> > Aniversary. They'll take
> > some hardware with them thus one is hoping that IMC
> > SA as strong as they are now
> > will be even stronger in 12 months. 
> > 
> > On the other hand one just hopes that somehow IMC
> > Nigeria should get bakc to
> > it's feet and be able to be in Nairobi too. 
> > 
> > As it was said by the Evaluation report.
> > "May this lead to better understanding, so we can
> > find joint solutions to our
> > interconnected problems and open new ways of
> > cooperation."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Nairobi will be both stock taking of the
> > developments after Dakar and
> > preparation for TUNIS. Where the next World Summit
> > on the Information Society
> > (WSIS) meetings will take place.
> > An opportunity for African activists and other
> > activists arround the world with
> > long experience in alternative media doing a join
> > project. 
> > 
> > The changes that Africa needs will start by a little
> > participation by each and
> > everyone.
> > Sphinx
> > 
> > Quoting John Bwakali :
> > 
> > > Hi dear comrades,
> > > 
> > > We are back home in Kenya with big smiles on our
> > faces. 
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