[Imc-africa] Gilberto's mail

[sphinx]

hi Gilberto! Nice to read from you on the list in the way you did write it. 
I got your "one email" which you prefered to call emailS on your mail below. I'm
 spending less time online now as I'm on a little break , i needed a break from
the whole stress of the conference that is why i did not respond till now to
your mail.

You wrote asking me to refund the VISA FEE you paid for your visa. Probably
becuase you read on the list that we paid visa fee for John and Grace. But
Gilberto this is abit insensitive on your part everyone on this list even at
this point knows that we just squeezed ourselves through the conference. That I
still have a telephone bill of 204,94 EUR plus the last one that just arrived
55EUR which cannot be paid. 

In you are asking for visa fee becuase you read that the group from Kenya had
visa fee, it is to say the list very sad. Frank and Jean paid their own visa
fees too.
John and Grace were send visa fees becuase they explained that they could not
afford it at the time even then they still had to add some money to make up the
visa sum. 

You got money for transit which probably Jean could have asked same if it is to
read mails on this list and ask for similar services. You conplained about the
$248 you paid to change your ticket while there were some funds you where
refunded the money. 

I've read your mail and the others mails of complains about what was offered.
All i can say and will surely say when I'm over with my break and will have to
write a  report for the IMC-network on the Dakar-Conference is the following:-
That all activists in indymedia do what they do from conviction and are not paid
 a salary for, including all the energies put to make this conference in Dakar
happen. 
It means at least one needs everyone saying they are participating to show a
certain degree of commitment to the project. Thus acquiant themselves with the
information avaliable and try to take some initiative.

I hope in the next conference, IF EVERTHERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER that we can
get information of how many people will come and how many people will share a
house, exact sleeping possiblities  and other stuff  and inform groups before
hand so that any group which thinks the conditions are below their minimum
standard can just simply say they cannot participate.

Gilberto,
Write an email to this list asking for your visa and that will be included in
the conference final report for the IMC-network; and if any other activists are
interest in raising funds to cover left over bills from the conference they'll
consider that too like one of the standing bills from the conference. And if
they raise the money they can send it to you.
Sphinx





Quoting Gilberto Neto <gilneto at netangola.com>:

> Hi Grace and everyone
> 
> Sorry for the delayed reply.
> 
> I had a safe trip back home, thanks. As Glenda said, we flew together from
> Dakar to Lisbon. I'm now fully back to work but planning another trip around
> Africa. I terribly miss everybody, especially you Grace, because of tears! I
> won't definitely forget the wonderful time we spent all together during the
> Conference.
> 
> On the other hand, I won't forget the last hours I had in Dakar, moving place
> to place with all my stuff because, well I believe you know why. And I will
> always remember the fact that we were lodged in such conditions - actually I
> didn't care about sleeping in a sofa or on the flour, as that was a grate
> experience. What drove me really pissed off - a part of becoming almost a
> "homeless-Angolan- in- Dakar-for-some-hours" - was the fact that for three or
> four times I had to wake up and leave the room due the "toxic" smoke some Bob
> Marley followers would spread all around the room.
> 
> Also, there is the fact that I wasn't refund some money I spent to attend the
> conference. The result of emails sent to Germany has been a total silence.
> 
> That's life, that's not the end of the world anyway. The most important was
> the fact that I learnt so the Indymedia process here is moving faster.
> 
> Tell me about your life and job Grace. And you bro John, how's my compatriot
> Vladimir Russo?
> 
> Frank - are you out there? Is Paul Biya still getting out his palace with the
> entire army?
> 
> I think that we should communicate more and find a way to bring Jean on the
> debate.
> 
> Rafael - Have you found anybody who was locked up? I'm planning to write the
> story soon.
> 
> Glenda - Pls keep me posted about the projects
> 
> Daniel - that program to send secret emails is not included on the CD I was
> given. Can you help me?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Gilberto Neto
> (244 2) 446 829- Redacção/Newsroom
> (244 2) 432 333- Casa/Home
> (244) 915 16776-Celular/Cell
> gilneto at netangola.com
> Luanda-Angola
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Grace Waita 
>   To: African IMCs and the imc project in Africa 
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:54 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Imc-africa] XIBAR
> 
> 
>   Attention Frank, 
>   The above refers, please do the needful,that is,  TRANSLATE.
>   Thanks in advance, God bless you plus all the others too.
>   P.S  I travel to Mombasa tomorrow,Godwilling.
>   GILBERTO: R U IN ANGOLA?
>   CHRISTI: DID YOU ARRIVE WELL?
>   GLENDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM WORKING ON SOMETHING,WILL LET YOU KNOW
> ASAP.
> 
>   Bye.
> 
>   Grace.    
> 
>   Win an evening with the Indian cricket captain: Yahoo! India Promos.
> 
> 
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