[Imc-aotearoa-ed] the roving catchup email... please read - don't bin

[finn c.]

Hi

We wouldn't bin your email duncan :-)

> ===CONTROVERSIAL STORIES===
> The point of this story? We 'the collective' are not the authors of
> content on the site. We only serve to organise the site and fascilitate
> it's growth and usefullness. (Where possible members of the collective
> will also be gathering first-hand stories to publish.) So - I do not
> believe we should get into issues of editing or hiding stories which we
> believe are innacurate. We can simply agree as a collective and make a
> collective comment to the article stating our collective views.

Yup.
 
> ===TITLE CHANGING===
> I suggest we change the publish page as outlined in my email a while back
> and see if that helps.
> 
> the title - What is your post about?
> 
> the summary - What are the main issues in this post? (include the duration
> of the piece if you are publishing audio or video)
> 
> the article - if you haven't yet, please read our <ed policy> Editorial
> Policy <>

Yup, this is on my todo list. I have to redo the translation etc, so it may be a wee while. I'm also looking into splitting the wire into national/international.
 
> ===Violence===
> We do not have anything in our policy which authorises us to
> hide posts advocating violence in general (only if we see it as a personal
> attck)

Yup, the majority of these kinda posts that we would object to are already covered in our ed policy (racist etc).  

> ===Innocent until proven guilty===
> I agree here with Ken. I would *like* us to go into articles which name
> people whoes guilt has not been proven. Perhaps we could say we will hide
> names not already in the public arena of people who's safety may be
> endangered by being named. This would include the Dow Chemicals Guy but
> not Constable Abbott. Does that sound reasonable? If so it's another thing
> to work into the policy.

hmm, this could get very murky though eh. For instance we would be hiding 90% of the articles about the Waikato occupation. How is the Dow guy's safety endangered? I can see us getting really confused . . . we should have a look around indy ed policies to see how they handle it. Australian one's have lots of trolls so they could be a good start.

If they are totally random "Miss F from Invercargill is a dirty lesbian and must die" (as has happened) then sure, but I think that we have to be very careful where we draw the line.

And Constable Abbot's guilt hasn't been 'proven'. Actually he got off ;-) Any reference to him being a murderer might be considered defamatory (even if true). Although most of the country thinks he's guilty, so we'd get off I think :-)

> ==='ANTI-SEMITIC' ARTICLE===
> 
> I do not beliebve this should be removed unless we are now enacting our
> ban on off topic articles from corporate media. It is a coherent article
> with several comments eluding to it being a fake. Good to keep people on
> their toes.

Err, the article aint from the commercial media. It's a fake article attempting to incite racial hatred. Theres plenty on this site to keep us on our toes already eh :-)

Lots of indy's get this crap spammed all the time by fascists. I think it's a bit inconsistent to not hide an article about a Jewish-occult-kiddie-sacrificing-porn-ring but hide articles about dirty fags. This article is so silly it can't possibly be true, but I think that it's an exception. 

> ===DOW CHEMICALS===
> Does anyone know of a reasonable independent and reliable source who we
> could follow this up with. If we can find some substance to it it would be
> great - and yes we should think about a feature. I wouldn't like to focus
> on this guy though.

This has actually been covered in depth by several media sources. Yes Dow suck (as do most large chemical companies).
 
Have a look at: http://www.investigatemagazine.com/pdf's/ap28to37.pdf#page=1

There were several demos earlier this year that were quite rowdy - I'd be keen to do a feature if something new happened. The link above contains the name of a group that would prob be worth contacting, they seem quite sane.

Wow it's snowing here :-) And by the time I finish it's sunny . . 

seeyas
finn