[Imc-aotearoa-ed] Re: Imc-aotearoa-ed digest, Vol 1 #125 - 2 msgs

[Danyl Strype]

Kia ora koutou,

Rovin rote:

>> --The proudhon guy:
http://www.indymedia.org.nz/front.php3?article_id=2509&group=webcast
I'm not so convinced we should get rid of this post - how
is it different from the summaries of newletter i just put
up?

http://www.indymedia.org.nz/front.php3?article_id=2536&group=webcast
<<

In my mind the difference is that Foreign Control Watchdog
has a specific connection and relevance to Aotearoa which a
general site about Proudhon lacks. Much as I respect
Proudhon he has been dead for about a hundred years. His
views no matter how well-preserved their general relevance
are not news, let alone Aotearoa news.  

How long will the newswire remain a 'useful media resource
for under-represented voices' if we allow it to end up
choked with promo for websites dedicated to long-dead white
men?

I think that something about 'posts should be relevant to
Aotearoa readers' urgently needs to be added to the
editorial policy.

>> and i think we should be able, somehow to add a summary
where no useful one is provided - not sure how though. <<

You can. You click 'edit story' on the administration page.

>> so - shall we ask him to start using a summary? <<

I maintain that the post is off-topic and should be hidden.

BTW A useful alteration to the site - unhidden posts should
reappear at the top of the newswire. If we agree that
hiding it was a mistake it needs to be given a proper
chance to be read. Also if it's unhidden while a debate
occurs about whether it should be hidden, the continued
discussion and action isn't worthwhile if the post has
already dropped off the bottom of the wire.

>> --Who's the Terrorist?
I will restate my reasons more clearly. by 'no meaningful
content' i mean that there is me meaning in the content. i
did not say there is no content, just that it carries no
meaning. and contrary to the two words of text "thought
provoker" it is not a thought provoker in my mind. it
provides nothing to the aims of the site. <<

I agree - without a summary explaining its relevance this
post is simply a waste of space.

>> --Dubya Bin-Zilla 
http://www.indymedia.org.nz/front.php3?article_id=2517&group=webcast
 
I fail to see why we should host this kinda crap. <<

I agree. If it was hosted elsewhere and linked, with a
suitably articulate summary, fine.
 
>> --Bandwidth and big(er) files This bandwidth thing,
forgive me if i'm misunderstanding - but am i right that
every time someone uploads or accesses a file we pay
(donate) money for the bandwidth that uses. in my mind this
means that 'To preserve the quality of the website as a
useful media resource' also means being reasonably strict
on people who upload large files. <<

Agreed. I think we are bound to let people upload before we
filter, in keeping with IMC operating procedure, but I see
no reason to allow high-cost, low-value content to spend
money we don't have as long as we hide it after-the-fact
and with suitable accountability.

>> --our ed policy
I think we should setup a working group to revise and
present a new draft of the ed policy. people keep
mentioning things but we have no good process for getting
changes made or agreed on. <<

I agree that the editorial policy needs to be updated to
reflect the experience of this group since it was
established. However 'working group' smacks of another
egroup. I already spend too much time checking my email.

Based on the established protocols used by AIM, I would say
whoever has the time and the energy does a rewrite and
posts it to the relevant lists (ie general and editorial).
If no one raises dissent after a week or so the policy is
changed. If someone dissent, debate ensues until consensus
is reached.

>> --admin password
Can strypey and yuda please add themselves to the
password holders list on wiki? <<

Done and done. Hey Rovin, just a word about the wiki thing.
I can see what a useful resource it is as an evolving
snapshot of our organisation. But I see it as a companion
resource to the egroups, which provide a more familiar
interface for the non-techy among us. For instance I
wouldn't like to see discussion, especially question asking
and answering suppressed on the egroups on the basis it is
already covered in the wiki. I can see this - no matter how
unintentionally - mystifying AIM developing and
concentrating decision-making in a narrower core group.

RnB,
Strypey

=====
"Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it is gone past me I will turn to see fear's path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." 

The Litany Against Fear - "Dune", Frank Herbert.

Aotearoa Independent Media; http://www.indymedia.org.nz/

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