[Imc-aotearoa-ed] Re: dk hidden + proposal

[clare]

hello,

how long have we been dealing with this person? 18 - 24 months. he's not
getting better in my opinion. he always tries to push us as far as he
can and i've had enough. 
i've lost track of how many warnings we have given him to stop abusing
people (which, is mostly directed at me)

and apart from the abuse, he just doesn't respect the site at all. 

and, his non abusive posts are for the majority incomprehensible to
anyone but himself, and he floods the wire with it. i don't want the
newswire to be his personal vomit bowl, sorry, it's makes the newswire
not very useable.


> You are talking about a MAJOR change to the ed policy, one which should
> perhaps be ratified at the conference and definitely requires discussion on
> imc-aotearoa. Personally I am opposed to banning DK or anybody. Banning is a
> blunt instrument and I think the spammer list is a better way of dealing
> with overzealous posters.

of course we need further discussion not just on this list... but i want
him banned too,  the spammer list is not really working for dk, or we
wouldn't be having this discussion.
> 
> That said I too have emailed DK. I told him my opposition is contingent on
> his manners improving 1000-fold immediately. Let's hope he takes our
> warnings seriously.

sure, but, how many times have we done this already?

yours,
fucked off

clare
(but not at you stypey)

> 
> RnB,
> Strypey
> 
> Quoting YudA <kjnis at yahoo.co.nz>:
> 
> > Looks good, I'm going to wait a day or so before
> > approving DK's banning, I sent him a note (basically
> > saying chill the fuck out) if he continues I'll agree
> > 
> > As for the changes maybe have something on the wiki
> > spammer list page that the spammer has been been
> > revoked off the spammer list? I dunno
> > 
> > K.
> > 
> >  --- "finn c." <finn at animal-liberation.org.nz> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > #13523 #13524 #13525 #13457 have been hidden.
> > > 
> > > I think that we should ban DK from posting on
> > > indymedia totally. He has
> > > simply gone too far this time, and I am sick of the
> > > vile little bigot.
> > > 
> > > It'll need an amendment to the ed policy though. I
> > > suggest:
> > > 
> > >  C. Spam Attack Procedure
> > > 
> > >  A spam attack is defined as a pattern of abuse of
> > > the newswire by a
> > >  particular poster. If the editorial collective
> > > reaches consensus that a
> > >  specific individual is launching a spam attack on
> > > the AIMC newswire,
> > >  the spammer's post(s) may be hidden from the
> > > newswire by a member of
> > >  the editorial collective. Each instance of
> > > recognized spam will be
> > >  considered individually, and the reason why the
> > > editorial collective
> > >  perceives the post(s) as spam will be stated on the
> > > editorial list.
> > >  When a member of the editorial collective hides a
> > > post, (s)he shall
> > >  immediately notify the editorial listserv.
> > > 
> > >  In extreme circumstances a designated spammer may
> > > be banned from
> > >  posting on the newswire completely. If the
> > > editorial collective reaches
> > >  consensus, the spammers post(s) can be hidden on
> > > sight. The spammer will
> > >  be notified of their banned status via email. 
> > >  
> > >  If a member of the editorial collective wishes to
> > > revoke a banning, 
> > >  they can do so by proposing it to the editorial
> > > collective. If
> > >  consensus is reached then the spammer will be
> > > allowed to post on the
> > >  newswire again, but their 'spammer' status will
> > > remain. 
> > > 
> > >  It is to be noted that because IMC's are open
> > > publishing sites, posts
> > >  may be made that are not readily identifiable as
> > > being from the same
> > >  person. It is the responsibility of the editor
> > > raising the issue of a
> > >  potential spammer to list the trademark spam
> > > patterns of that potential
> > >  spammer. If the Editorial collective agrees this
> > > author is spamming the
> > >  A-IMC site, their trademark spam patterns will be
> > > recorded on a page of
> > >  the A-IMC site, currently here.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > finn
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