[Imc-aotearoa-ed] Re: hidden DK's comment about periods
Danyl Strype
strypey at riseup.net
Fri Dec 26 17:38:17 PST 2003
Kia ora koutou,
I know Don's abusive language is a serious issue but I think we are in danger of being petty and inconsistent.
Do Eric, Paul Holmes etc (whose underlying attitude if not their linguistic style are much more reactionary than Don's) get as much attention from us as Don? Another point is it's a comment, not a newswire posting. To my mind comments should be moderated less stringently than postings as they are more obviously just an opinion of one person.
On the question of that particular comment <http://www.indymedia.org.nz/front.php3?article_id=13735&group=webcast> I feel uncomfortable about male volunteers hiding things on the basis that they are offensive to women - isn't that a bit vanguardist? If Clare (for example) had felt it was offensive enough to hide the comment (or a female reader had complained) I would support her. Maybe I am being inconsistent? I don't know.
I just want remind everyone (myself included) that the decision to hide other people's speech on an open-publishing forum should not be taken lightly. In my first attempt at being a newswire clerk I got a bit trigger-happy and others had to remind me that the thrust of the editorial is (or should be) to allow everything and hide only that which CANNOT (for a clear reason) be allowed to remain, not a firewall approach of hiding everything except that which we approve of.
When we upgrade to DadaIMC and have the ability to delete and purge posts (can you clarify what these mean in practice Finn?) as well as just hiding them this collective gains the power to totally censor a poster or subject. This worries me greatly. This is a huge resonsibility and we have to do everything we can to make sure we are accountable and that we are SEEN to be accountable to the communities we want to use this site.
RnB,
Strypey
Quoting YudA <kjnis at yahoo.co.nz>:
> I'm not sure how effective that would be, I'm sure DK
> would see that as a backdown by us and he would use
> that to justify his position. I am of the oppisite
> opinion - any of his posts which are outside our
> editorial policy should be hidden, This sort of thing
> has been tried on the international site in the past
> an it hasn't worked
>
> K
>
> --- "finn c." <finn at animal-liberation.org.nz> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I reckon that all the abusive comments on dk's posts
> > should remain
> > unhidden for now, so everyone knows how dodgy he is.
> >
> > Seeya's
> > finn
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 10:54:32AM +1300, mr sterile
> > wrote:
> > > i like to suggest this one for hidding
> > comment#13735 as an snide abusive
> > > slur to all women
> > > kieran
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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