[Imc-aotearoa-ed] Re: [Imc-aotearoa] Re: hidden DK's comment about periods

YudA kjnis at yahoo.co.nz
Sat Dec 27 16:26:41 PST 2003


I personally don't think I am being petty about this
eric is a known spammer and his stuff get hidden check
out the hidden files from say a month ago before Dk's
latest tirade I would say offhand 90% of the malitious
posts we hid would have been from eric. Paul Holmes
has not been identified as a spammer so this is a
different argument.

About the offensive to women part, that's why I have
been careful to state rather than offensive to women
that the posts I have hidden  I have stated that they
are attacking A-IMC staff.  Anyway as Clair pointed
out she has been putting up with Dk's crap for about
18 months so I think we are in danger of alienating
clair just to appease Dk.

I feel we are inconsistant at the moment we give Dk a
hell of a lot more latitude than any other spammer 

K.

--- Danyl Strype <strypey at riseup.net> wrote: > Kia ora
koutou,
> 
> I know Don's abusive language is a serious issue but
> I think we are in danger of being petty and
> inconsistent. 
> 
> Do Eric, Paul Holmes etc (whose underlying attitude
> if not their linguistic style are much more
> reactionary than Don's) get as much attention from
> us as Don? Another point is it's a comment, not a
> newswire posting. To my mind comments should be
> moderated less stringently than postings as they are
> more obviously just an opinion of one person.
> 
> On the question of that particular comment
>
<http://www.indymedia.org.nz/front.php3?article_id=13735&group=webcast>
> I feel uncomfortable about male volunteers hiding
> things on the basis that they are offensive to women
> - isn't that a bit vanguardist? If Clare (for
> example) had felt it was offensive enough to hide
> the comment (or a female reader had complained) I
> would support her. Maybe I am being inconsistent? I
> don't know. 
> 
> I just want remind everyone (myself included) that
> the decision to hide other people's speech on an
> open-publishing forum should not be taken lightly.
> In my first attempt at being a newswire clerk I got
> a bit trigger-happy and others had to remind me that
> the thrust of the editorial is (or should be) to
> allow everything and hide only that which CANNOT
> (for a clear reason) be allowed to remain, not a
> firewall approach of hiding everything except that
> which we approve of.
> 
> When we upgrade to DadaIMC and have the ability to
> delete and purge posts (can you clarify what these
> mean in practice Finn?) as well as just hiding them
> this collective gains the power to totally censor a
> poster or subject. This worries me greatly. This is
> a huge resonsibility and we have to do everything we
> can to make sure we are accountable and that we are
> SEEN to be accountable to the communities we want to
> use this site.
> 
> RnB,
> Strypey
> 
> Quoting YudA <kjnis at yahoo.co.nz>:
> 
> > I'm not sure how effective that would be, I'm sure
> DK
> > would see that as a backdown by us and he would
> use
> > that to justify his position. I am of the oppisite
> > opinion - any of his posts which are outside our
> > editorial policy should be hidden,  This sort of
> thing
> > has been tried on the international site in the
> past
> > an it hasn't worked
> > 
> > K
> > 
> >  --- "finn c." <finn at animal-liberation.org.nz>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I reckon that all the abusive comments on dk's
> posts
> > > should remain
> > > unhidden for now, so everyone knows how dodgy he
> is.
> > > 
> > > Seeya's
> > > finn
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 10:54:32AM +1300, mr
> sterile
> > > wrote:
> > > > i like to suggest this one for hidding
> > > comment#13735 as an snide abusive
> > > > slur to all women
> > > > kieran
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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