[Imc-belgium-process] closed process-archives

[lize]

I don't think that the proposal of just 1 person is enough reason to
close the list to the public. At least a small debate about it should
have been more democratic. So, I propose to have the debate first and
then close the list.
As I said, fascist also use/refer to robot and edito list. As I said
also, we'd better find another more effective solution to protect us
from the spamming of fascists.
Greetz
lize

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: imc-belgium-process-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
[mailto:imc-belgium-
> process-bounces at lists.indymedia.org] Namens han
> Verzonden: zondag 26 oktober 2003 14:24
> Aan: duende; imc-belgium-process
> Onderwerp: Re: [Imc-belgium-process] closed process-archives
> 
> > My 2 cents: an e-mail should have been sent to both lists before
their
> > archive was closed.
> >
> >
> 
> I agree.
> Butb Mara sended out a mail in the list to explain that it would be
> closed.
> 
> Ik agree with the closing down of the list.  I see that fascists use
the
> open lists, and even link to it.
> But I also think that it is better now to have those discussion in our
> team,
> annybody who wants to particpate has always been welcome in this list.
> 
> For the time being I do not need an audience for this debate.
> 
> I also know that several other IMC's did the same thing to able to
solve
> their problems without the interference of outsiders.
> Check SF indymedia lists, and some of the NL lists
> http://www.freeteam.nl/mailman/listinfo/imc-nl
> 
> 
> Greets
>             han
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > There seem to be frequent problems with subscription to the lists.
> >
> > I made 4 attempts to subscribe to the coordination list - with
intervals
> > of several days in between - before i actually succeeded.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > duende
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 13:51, mara wrote:
> >   Hi, friday evening I have send this email.
> >
> >   "Het is een spijtige zaak, maar er wordt al een hele tijd misbruik
> gemaakt
> >   van de openheid van de verschillende lijsten. Zo citeert een
fascist
> als Dog
> >   of Flanders uit onze lijsten. Ik denk niet dat dit de bedoeling
was
> van
> >   transparante communicatie.
> >    En aangezien heel wat andere lijsten er geen problemen mee hebben
om
> hun
> >   communicatie gesloten te houden  (zowel in het binnenland als in
het
> >   buitenland), zie ik niet goed in waarom bv. belgium-process nog
open
> moet
> >   blijven"
> >
> >
> >   More explanation:
> >
> >   On Friday I noticed that several other list are closed too.
> >   For example: the imc-be list `to encourage collaboration between
> different
> >   imc`s` seems to be a closed list!! ( this is before I closed down
> process).
> >   I subscribed in the imc-be list, but I was not approved. I got no
> >   explanation what so ever.
> >   And when there is one list that should be open, I think it should
be
> the
> >   imc-be list. How else can you encourage this `collaboration`
> especially when
> >   people are not subscribed/approved?
> >
> >   Secondly, there are fascist abusing the openness of the lists (dog
of
> >   Flanders for example)
> >
> >   The atmosphere is getting really bad on the process list, I think
> nobody has
> >   a message in this stupid discussions.
> >
> >   I think edito should stay open. After all, everybody should be
able to
> >   follow edito decisions.
> >   Unfortunately, the process discussion is now moved to the
edito-list
> >
> >
> >   Greetings
> >
> >   Mara
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: imc-belgium-process-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> >   [mailto:imc-belgium-process-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf
Of
> >   Joeri
> >   Sent: vrijdag 24 oktober 2003 17:59
> >   To: imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org
> >   Subject: [Imc-belgium-process] closed process-archives
> >
> >
> >   hey,
> >
> >   i just noticed the imc-belgium-process archives are only viewable
for
> >   listmembers anymore; what is the reason for that please? and is it
> >   temporary or on longer terms?
> >
> >   greets
> >   joeri
> >
> >   _______________________________________________
> >   Imc-belgium-process mailing list
> >   Imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org
> >   http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-belgium-process
> >
> >   _______________________________________________
> >   Imc-belgium-process mailing list
> >   Imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org
> >   http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-belgium-process
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --------
> # Creativity and innovation always build on the past.
> # The past always tries to control the creativity that builds upon it.
> # Free societies enable the future by limiting the power of the past.
> # Ours is less and less a free society.
> 
> http://www.FSF.org
> http://www.creativecommons.org
> http://www.indymedia.be
> --------
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Imc-belgium-process mailing list
> Imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org
> http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-belgium-process