[IMC-bristol] Re: squabbling online

[Jog Rafer]

I´m not sure that either JVs comments or mine come under the heading of 
unacceptable language, unless of course about 50% of the stuff that goes out 
on IM causes probs

also JV, whats this stuff about forwarding messages being a matter of 
complaint, the e-mail address is the one you publish, makes sense as the 
message was to the 2 of us to send it to both ??

Jo

>From: James Venables <james at venables.plus.com>
>To: crash <crash at subsection.org.uk>
>CC: "imc-bristol at lists.indymedia.org" <imc-bristol at lists.indymedia.org>, 
>jografer at hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: squabbling online
>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:25:18 +0000
>
>  Hello Crash,
>
>  Well, I do disagree with you. I disagree with political correctness, so
>  to receive an email expecting it to be arbitrarily enforced is
>  unacceptable, laughable, & couldn't be more patronising. I have
>  previously complained about threats of violence against others on this
>  list, which isn't free speech, & the only unacceptable thing to my
>  mind.
>
>  But I don't find the language used on this exchange unacceptable, & you
>  have made yourself look entirely silly, painfully PC, & entirely
>  childish by taking offence to it in this way. Especially as the nature
>  of the complaint was against PC, so to attempt to enforce the very
>  issue being contested is a joke, & I therefore choose to entirely
>  ignore your request.
>
>  I DO HOWEVER HAVE A COMPLAINT TO MAKE .
>
>  I didn't give my email online, so this email from you is entirely
>  unsolicited. You've also forwarded it to Jografer without my
>  permission. Don't use it again without my permission, which includes
>  you not replying to this email, except to give an immediate apology for
>  forwarding my email without my permission. I expect this apology to be
>  immediately forthcoming.
>
>  James
>
>  In message <3FC931D1.9060006 at subsection.org.uk>, crash
>  <crash at subsection.org.uk> writes
> >Re: Mr & Mrs Student Bristol,
> >
> >James/Jografer, I cannot deny your right to squabble online. But this is
> >obviously a long-running dispute you have between yourselves.
> >
> >We haven't met, therefore I don't hold any grudges against either of you.
> >What I would like to suggest, however, is that when you find yourselves
> >entering a dispute with someone on the bristol indymedia site, you take
> >it offline and work out your differences there?
> >That would really make things a lot easier for the BIMC volunteers who
> >have to painstakingly look through all comments to see if any of them
> >have broken guidelines.
> >
> >If you feel this is unfair, email me in person, otherwise, I'd be 
>grateful if
> >this kind of stuff (e.g. 
>http://bristol.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=1
> >0005&group=webcast) is kept off-site unless it's of public interest. 
>Stuff
> >like calling people a 'brainless turd' and 'radical poseurs' belongs to 
>the
> >'privacy' of chatrooms, not open source newswires, and IMHO only
> >diminishes BIMC's standing as an alternative to the Daily Filth.
> >
> >Cheers + regards,
> >
> >Crash (BIMC volunteer)
> >
> >
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>James Venables
>

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