[IMC-bristol] Re: Changing Bristol IMC admin without permission

ian i-contact ian at videonetwork.org
Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:03:51 +0000


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At 15:22 2/14/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>You still haven't explained why I have been removed as an IMC administrator.


You were removed as an administrator in the summer as you weren't filtering 
the e-mails and hence not doing the job of administrator.  It took you till 
JANUARY to realise that you've been removed.  Need I say anymore? Flaco 
complained about this as well b4 he left town - which is why i was asked to 
help out (along with Joey).

No Passwords have been changed - if you want to go back on as an 
Administrator then i'll happily go along with the consensus decision 
regarding this.  But frankly if you're not gonna  do the job then what's 
the point?  I have no real want for doing this tedious role (filtering 
20-30 daily spams by hand is such a laugh) but somebody has to do it...A 
huge back log quickly bulids up if it doesn't get done and important 
message can easily get buried amongst the multiple requests to Invest 
$20,000,000 for a deposed Lagos President or advertisements for penis 
enlarging kits.

You also agreed that you were gonna put up one middle column feature a week 
to help take the load of me.  Again you haven't done any since around 
October.  Again I've been doing the middle column all by myself.  Which is 
a situation that I raised back in the summer...Now I don't have a problem 
with that - you have your reasons for not doing this.  Heck i've lunched 
out enough recently as you all well know...so who am I to talk about 
commitment?  After all this is a voluntary run thang.  I can't force you to 
take a more proactive role Tony. The way I see it is you either do it or ya 
don't. Pure and simple.



>Neither why you removed my centre page article on the evening of the first 
>Fairford demo.


I condensed two Fairford pieces (1 old + 1 current ) into one middle column 
feature as you fully know. Nothing of yours has ever been removed from the 
news wire to my knowledge. Did we not talk about this adequately b4 
christmas at the cube? I thought we had...  You still seem aggrieved  But 
your aggressive accusations of censorship (which you flagged up into the 
middle column ) were slightly misplaced and a little OTT i thought 
considering that you've removed  out of date features from the middle 
column as well ( a practice I think that should be avoided (in hindsight) 
because of archiving etc)  Misunderstandings such as this can easily be 
solved by a little dialogue don't you think?

It seems that we need to have a session about middle column 
protocol/etiquette in order to avoid any further problems...

Originally important decisions were made about the middle column protocol 
when the site was set up back in Nov2001.  These decisions were made by 
consensus.   If I remember correctly you weren't involved in BIMC at that 
time.  Now I've tried to stick by this as best as I can - in fact there 
hasn't been any complaints about the middle column content to my knowledge 
(apart from your Fairford censorship allegations) .  I've said it b4 and 
i'll say it again, If these middle column editorial decisions need altering 
( as often things do from time to time, new people coming on board etc) 
then lets discuss them at a meeting and vote on it.  That's the way all 
decisions have been made so far.



>You are not replying to my questions by telephone or email - hence this 
>post to the list.




I've been ill since just after christmas Tony. I thought you knew this. 
mibbee not. But i haven't had any phone calls from you ...although I have 
left messages for you!  sigh

I'm not gonna get into a flame session Tony which is what I think your 
trying to provoke. They generally serve no purpose. If you want to speak 
further about this and other stuff then lets get together over a nice cup 
of tea and do so.

By the way is anybody planning on going to Lancaster next weekend for the 
indymedia moot? do you wanna run a car up Tony? I'm up for it...can we take 
petrol money out of the kitty for this?


cheerz
ian
[07817-953579]






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At 15:22 2/14/2003 +0000, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>You still haven't explained why I
have been removed as an IMC administrator.</blockquote><br><br>
<b><i>You were removed as an administrator in the summer as you weren't
filtering the e-mails and hence not doing the job of administrator.&nbsp;
It took you till JANUARY to realise that you've been removed.&nbsp; Need
I say anymore? Flaco complained about this as well b4 he left town -
which is why i was asked to help out (along with Joey). <br><br>
No Passwords have been changed - if you want to go back on as an
Administrator then i'll happily go along with the consensus decision
regarding this.&nbsp; But frankly if you're not gonna&nbsp; do the job
then what's the point?&nbsp; I have no real want for doing this tedious
role (filtering 20-30 daily spams by hand is such a laugh) but somebody
has to do it...A huge back log quickly bulids up if it doesn't get done
and important message can easily get buried amongst the multiple requests
to Invest $20,000,000 for a deposed Lagos President or advertisements for
penis enlarging kits.<br><br>
You also agreed that you were gonna put up one middle column feature a
week to help take the load of me.&nbsp; Again you haven't done any since
around October.&nbsp; Again I've been doing the middle column all by
myself.&nbsp; Which is a situation that I raised back in the summer...Now
I don't have a problem with that - you have your reasons for not doing
this.&nbsp; Heck i've lunched out enough recently as you all well
know...so who am I to talk about commitment?&nbsp; After all this is a
voluntary run thang.&nbsp; I can't force you to take a more proactive
role Tony. The way I see it is you either do it or ya don't. Pure and
simple.&nbsp; <br><br>
<br><br>
</i></b><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Neither why you removed my
centre page article on the evening of the first Fairford
demo.</blockquote><br><br>
<b><i>I condensed two Fairford pieces (1 old + 1 current ) into one
middle column feature as you fully know. Nothing of yours has ever been
removed from the news wire to my knowledge. Did we not talk about this
adequately b4 christmas at the cube? I thought we had...&nbsp; You still
seem aggrieved&nbsp; But your aggressive accusations of censorship (which
you flagged up into the middle column ) were slightly misplaced and a
little OTT i thought considering that you've removed&nbsp; out of date
features from the middle column as well ( a practice I think that should
be avoided (in hindsight) because of archiving etc)&nbsp;
Misunderstandings such as this can easily be solved by a little dialogue
don't you think?<br><br>
It seems that we need to have a session about middle column
protocol/etiquette in order to avoid any further problems...<br><br>
Originally important decisions were made about the middle column protocol
when the site was set up back in Nov2001.&nbsp; These decisions were made
by consensus.&nbsp;&nbsp; If I remember correctly you weren't involved in
BIMC at that time.&nbsp; Now I've tried to stick by this as best as I can
- in fact there hasn't been any complaints about the middle column
content to my knowledge (apart from your Fairford censorship allegations)
.&nbsp; I've said it b4 and i'll say it again,  If these middle column
editorial decisions need altering ( as often things do from time to time,
new people coming on board etc) then lets discuss them at a meeting and
vote on it.&nbsp; That's the way all decisions have been made so
far.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>
<br><br>
</i></b><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>You are not replying to my
questions by telephone or email - hence this post to the
list.</blockquote><br><br>
<br><br>
<b><i>I've been ill since just after christmas Tony. I thought you knew
this. mibbee not. But i haven't had any phone calls from you ...although
I have left messages for you!&nbsp; sigh <br><br>
I'm not gonna get into a flame session Tony which is what I think your
trying to provoke. They generally serve no purpose. If you want to speak
further about this and other stuff then lets get together over a nice cup
of tea and do so.&nbsp; <br><br>
By the way is anybody planning on going to Lancaster next weekend for the
indymedia moot? do you wanna run a car up Tony? I'm up for it...can we
take petrol money out of the kitty for this?<br><br>
<br>
</i>cheerz<br>
ian<br>
[07817-953579]<br><br>
<br><br>
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