[IMC-bristol] Re: bristol indymedia?

lisa haskel lisa at southspace.org
Wed Jun 25 17:07:47 PDT 2003 

hi ian, mike, all,

thanks for your replies.

its really nice to have continuing contact with you all even if it just 
happens around the server crashes..., and of course to be supporting bimc.

it would be nice to meet in london, tony and bill would like that too i'm 
sure.  foundary is as good place as any, though if sunny we could go 
outside somwhere.  we are all around for the first 
few weeks of july at least. 

about mir, i was just curious as i hadn't heard any of your voices in the 
discussions.  i totally agree, that the question is about priorities: 
usabiliy and reliabiliy for readers and non-technical contributors, versus 
self-sufficiency, learning, and networking between different skills and 
communities locally to meet needs.

i guess every imc is going to be different in this.  of course i would 
think that the latter has got a lot going for it, and is more likely to 
spin off new and unpredictable benefits just by people working together 
and accessing eachothers resources,  
but then, i'm not involved in running an imc ;)

let us know what we can do regarding any migration etc., but thats not to 
say we're anxious to get rid of bimc - most of the time it chugs away 
happily enough especially since bill did the kernal upgrade a while ago.


very best to you all,

lisa x




On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, ian wrote:

> hello lisa
> 
> thanks again for sorting out our server problems. Your continuing help on 
> this project is invaluable and well appreciated down in ze west country.
> 
> It seems as if BIMC is nearly ready to host its own server in the cube 
> microplex - may be that will happen by the autumn - einshallah.  A meeting 
> with you and tony etc would be a good idea.  We''ll organise it at our end 
> and meet somewhere convenient (  is the Foundry a good venue for this ? )
> 
> My thoughts on the MIR migration - it seems to have been a smooth 
> transition.  The site seems more stable.  I'm not sure though how this will 
> affect regional pages on the site...Like Mike i'm a fan of regions hosting 
> their own.  I think a network of truly autonomous indymedia sites would be 
> a more solid foundation.  concentrating efforts on a common server for the 
> UK could be a good thing ( we definitely need a solution to hosting 
> streaming video content )- if regional indymedia sites apply for funding 
> and pool resources then this could happen.  Being a computer philistine i 
> can't really comment about the Java thing...indymedia has always been 
> heavily dependent on a handful of computer geeks - whether they code in 
> java or not seems irrelevant, as a user whats more important is having a 
> reliable & stable site - on that level the MIR migration seems a good 
> thing.  I had my first play with the backend of the site on saturday and 
> again it looks good - greater functionality and easier to navigate.  I 
> don't like the white background though...paint it black.
> 
> personally i'm a fan of the san fransisco code.
> 
> cheers
> ian
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> At 10:40 6/25/2003 +0100, Mike Tonks wrote:
> >Hey Lisa,
> >
> >Nice to hear from you - sorry to only be in touch when there's a problem - 
> >always the same story!
> >
> >Anyhow - chhers for getting it sorted.  Afm ew db errors still - I'll ask 
> >martian to look at it today.
> >
> >Must get that backup running every night - I shit myself because our 
> >latest copy was nearly two months old!!!
> >
> >Anyhow - would be real nice to meet up at some point, maybee in Liondon?
> >
> >UK_MIR - well, we feel a bit out of the loop on this one - I guiess that's 
> >our fault for not going to the uk meetings:)
> >It seems a bit wierd to me that no-body has talked about hosting the uk 
> >server in the uk.  Movement towards centralisation in Germany rather than 
> >US seems a bit daft - where is our UK server project???  Also, personally, 
> >I think JAVA is a real problem because it is a higher level language - 
> >harder to learn, install, maintain, contribute to, etc, etc, I may be 
> >wrong, but it seems to consolidate an exclusive tech hold on the workings 
> >of the indymedia project rather than empower people to run their own 
> >sites.  Also ties everyone intop the same system rather than encouraging 
> >diversification, etc, etc.  But then, it looks good, and some people 
> >[guys??] haqve worked hard on it.  So, I love it and I hate it, which is 
> >no great surprise.  We will be sticking with active for a while probably, 
> >and setting up the rss feeds into mir.  Maybee we will move to dadaIMC 
> >code, or maybee to mir, or maybee we will hack the active base into yet 
> >another bristol variant!  HA!
> >
> >Any ideas on how to get the calendar to work?
> >
> >Ciao - Mike...
> >
> >>hi kyra, all,
> >>yes, the server was down (not sure why), but its back up now, though some 
> >>of the database requests seem to be slow.
> >>
> >>look forward to hearing about your plans, though of course its no problem 
> >>hosting bristol indy... i just know we can't provide the quality of 
> >>service that you need and probably you prefer it to be closer to home.
> >>
> >>... curious, by the way, to know your views on the big UK mir project...
> >>
> >>best to all bristol indys...
> >>
> >>lisa x
> >>
> >>On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, kyra wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>hi lisa
> >>>
> >>>sorry, but bristol indymedia seems to have gone for a burton... any sign of
> >>>(its) life where you are?
> >>>
> >>>also, we are very close to remedying our decidedly-overdue serving needs
> >>>here, and apologies as ever for its taking as long as has already - will be
> >>>keeping you posted of possible migration to new server as and when poss
> >>>
> >>>many thanks as ever
> >>>
> >>>kyra
> >>>
> >>>
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