[IMC-bristol] The Bristol e-mail list and its role

john serpico imc-bristol at lists.indymedia.org
Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:47:30 +0000 

Shariff,
        please don't think that there is "bossing about" here on Bristol 
Indymedia. All that we are trying to do is to make the site and the e-mail 
list easily manageable, particularly as the traffic on the site gets more 
busy. It is with the best of intentions that Ian is asking everyone to 
refrain from posting out messages that are not strictly Bristol linked. We 
are all volunteers here - yourself included, of course - and there is only 
so much time in the day.
Ian is not suggesting that this war "does not include Bristol people" in the 
slightest. Please don't feel bitter as there is really no need.
Personally, I'm not sure about on line petitions being sent out. There's no 
harm in I suppose. Posting out international news on the e-mail list is 
something different all together. It's not what the Bristol list is for and 
I would also ask people to refrain from doing this.
With respect. John Serpico.






>From: Always Shariff <alwaysshariff@yahoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: imc-bristol@lists.indymedia.org
>To: imc-bristol@lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re: [IMC-bristol] Urgent Peace Opportunity
>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:31:18 -0800 (PST)
>
>Mr Ian,
>I know this is for Bristol people, and for, what Bristol people thinks 
>about.
>This war is a thing which bothers the likes of me who is Bristol, bred and
>buttered sir. How dare you suggest that this war does not include Bristol
>people. The petition I send to the list is as important as any Bristol news 
>you
>can think of. I am very concerned about the way the Bristol Indy media is
>becoming as it gets more popular. There seems to be a lot of bossing about 
>with
>no regard to consensus.
>If there are anyone else who thinks that I am posting nonsence, please do 
>let
>me and this list know.
>  Thank you for your time and patience.
>'Aving it bitterly
>Always
>===============================================================================
>-- ian i-contact <ian@videonetwork.org> wrote:
> > hello Always Shariff
> >
> > this list is for Bristol indymedia / other indymedia news and is not a
> > general news list. Please refrain from posting out news which does not 
>have
> > any bearing with indymedia or Bristol...thanks
> >
> > please keep it Bristol focused
> >
> > cheers
> > ian
> >
> >
> > At 02:43 3/27/2003 -0800, Always Shariff wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >Please forgive me but when it has to be done it got to be...... Another 
>day
> > >another one.
> > >'Aving it arduously
> > >Always
> >
> >===============================================================================
> > >Iraq: Investigate civilian deaths
> > >Amnesty International is calling for an immediate and impartial
> > investigation
> > >into the deaths of civilians during the conflict in Iraq.
> > >According to reports, at least 15 Iraqi civilians were killed today and
> > >around
> > >30 wounded when missiles hit a residential area in north Baghdad.
> > >"Conflicting reports about the origin of the missiles reinforce the 
>need
> > >for a
> > >proper investigation," Amnesty International stated.
> > >"Given claims about the sophisticated nature of the weapons being used 
>in
> > >this
> > >conflict, it should be possible for Coalition forces to account for
> > munitions
> > >used."
> > >Amnesty International is calling for all relevant information to be
> > disclosed
> > >to allow for a full investigation.
> > >"Any credible allegation of a serious violation of the Geneva 
>Convention
> > must
> > >be fully investigated and those found responsible individually held to
> > >account,"
> > >Amnesty International stated.
> > >"Urgent measures must be taken to avoid civilian deaths and 
>casualties."
> > >Amnesty International is concerned about the increase in civilian 
>casualties
> > >caused by targeting errors in this war. In one instance on 23 March, 
>five
> > >Syrian
> > >nationals were killed and another 10 were hurt when a US missile hit a 
>bus
> > in
> > >Rutba, western Iraq, as it was returning to Syria. A US military 
>spokesman
> > >admitted that a US missile had hit the bus and that the real target was 
>a
> > >bridge.
> > >On 22 March, four Jordanian students were killed near Mosul, north-east 
>of
> > >Iraq, when a missile exploded near their car as they were driving out 
>of the
> > >city
> > >to flee US and UK bombardments. They were planning to drive to Jordan.
> > >"All forces must take sufficient precautions to protect civilians in
> > >selecting
> > >military objectives and means of attack," Amnesty International 
>declared.
> > >An attack must be cancelled or suspended if it becomes apparent that 
>the
> > >objective is not a military one or it is causing a disproportionate 
>loss of
> > >civilian
> > >life.
> > >****************************************************************
> > >On Wednesday, 26 March, there was an 'open session' of the UN Security
> > >Council,
> > >and members are expected to put forward a resolution condemning the war 
>and
> > >calling for a ceasefire. The debate is expected to carry on until
> > >Thursday, but
> > >it is clear that any such resolution will be vetoed by the US and UK.
> > >Arab League Foreign Ministers, as well as their colleagues in the
> > non-Aligned
> > >Movement, have said that if there is no Security Council resolution, 
>they
> > >will
> > >invoke Resolution 377 ('Uniting for Peace'), and call for an Emergency
> > >Session
> > >of the UN General Assembly, where a resolution calling for an end to 
>the war
> > >would get overwhelming support.
> > >We have chosen several countries whose support for this move is key to 
>its
> > >success. Any country that puts this forward, will have to be able to
> > >withstand
> > >diplomatic and economic blackmail from the US and the UK in order to
> > exercise
> > >their democratic right to speak on behalf of their people.
> > >Please use this link:
> > >
> > >http://act.greenpeace.org/ams/e?a=733&s=wr
> > >
> > >to write to the Foreign Ministers of Cuba, South Africa, Malaysia,
> > Indonesia,
> > >Nigeria, New Zealand, Switzerland, Fiji, Mexico, Chile, Germany, 
>Russia, and
> > >France, and ask them to support 'Uniting for Peace'.
> > >
> > >
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