[IMC-bristol] Re: [Imc-uk-features] Re: non-english languagepostings

[Mike Tonks]

Hola,

There's an interesting issue here on he imc-communication list, which is 
for international co-ordination and announcements between imc groups.

Seems the protocol here is to use at least two languages and not 
necessarily english - to avoid the unfair dominance of uk / us groups 
and encourage new groups for overseas.

Of course this leaves me feeling a little ignorant, as my French is 
terrible and my spanish non existent.

I am suggesting asking Martin Manxto from Kebele to be our 
'international correspondant' - he would have come to the meeting I 
think but they a busy with a new baby.

Adios amigos!

mike

PS: There's also some serious issue about making IM more accessible - 
braile can't be displayed on the screen but there are braile keyboards, 
speech activated browsers, text to speech systems and people who require 
large text / alternative colours to improve their access.  I guess these 
are mainly technical issues and what we really need is people or groups 
to work with to improve these features.

I'm seriously considering the idea of an [occasional] print version to 
extend our access to non internet types, and give us something to take 
to festivals, etc.




Zaskar wrote:

> Oh god no, whatever next... Brail on IM?  No seriously, I suppose its ok to
> accept foreign language postings but an english version should always be
> appended.  It is easy to check accuracy using all the tools on the net.
> 
> Mark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anarcho Babe" <anarchobabe at fempages.org>
> To: <imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org>
> Cc: <imc-bristol at lists.indymedia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:11 AM
> Subject: [IMC-bristol] Re: [Imc-uk-features] Re: non-english
> languagepostings
> 
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>this is following the discussion on imc-uk-features list about an aeh
>>suggested Arabic posting we don't understand and if to hide that.
>>Might it be possible that Imc Bristol has links with Arabic speaking
> 
> people
> 
>>who might be willing to help us out there?
>>
>>
>>My opinion on the thread of discussion:
>>I do think we need to hide posts we don't understand, and also if they are
>>not widely spoken in the area we cover.
>>So there is the difference between e.g. Spanish and German - there are
>>adequate indymedia and translation facilities in indymedia, so posts in
>>these languages should go on e.g. Indymedia Germany or some Indymedia in
>>Spain.
>>However, it would be great if we could extent languages which are actually
>>spoken here in our communities, such like Urdu,Bengali, and Arabic, Gaelic
>>and whatelse.
>>
>>It might be good if we could have some people at hand we could ask (some
>>kind of "volunteer indymedia consultant") when these posts turn up in the
>>newswire - for Arabic, we had an indymedia volunteer a while ago in
>>Edinburgh who studied it at university, and also there might be people at
>>the outskirts of indymedia we could consult.
>>
>>Will try to wade though the imc-uk-contact list and see if I could find
> 
> any
> 
>>Arabic speaker translation offer - also will dig out the 2 Araioc speaker
>>who turned up around or are sympathetic to indymedia before and see what
>>they suggest.
>>This might take a while however, so would propose to hide non-english
>>languages, which are though spoken here in Britain after they drop out of
>>the newswire 2-3 days later after posting, just as a sign we would welcome
>>these in principle?
>>
>>We could also add something to the publish form, saying we would in
>>principle welcome other language postings, which are relevant to the
> 
> people
> 
>>in the geographic area we cover.. but that we might have to hide it if we
>>can't find an interpretor and would welcome foreign language postings
>>accompanied with an english translation?
>>
>>Might it be possible that Imc Bristol has links with Arabic speaking
> 
> people
> 
>>who might be willing to help us out there?
>>
>>cheers Ulla
>>
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