[IMC-bristol] reply to randomjustice

arclightfire at hushmail.com arclightfire at hushmail.com
Fri Mar 19 10:13:31 PST 2004


>Sorry to carry on but I consider this extremely important. 

This has dominated the last 3 meetings we have had.  I realise you feel
it is important, and we are trying to deal with it, but we also have
the project to run.

>The recent mail from Ian with a quick "Fuck Off" is the most recent

>example of a giant problem.  Is BIMC going to deal with this or not?

 I don't think I an should be sending mail like that out, yes, but Ian
and Tony have been working together for a long, long time.  Before there
was a Bristol indymedia and they have a history together.  If this were
two volunteers only involved through the project, it would be serious,
 but we can't mediate thier relationship - it goes beyond BIMC. 

>Regarding the Tom Rintoul article, I think Tony Gosling has taken too

>much unnecessary blame for what Tom wrote.

Tony has upset a lot of people, and the accusations that Ian Bone was
running editorial policy come from Tony, are not true and are very irritating.

>Before printing it was posted to BIMC, allowing everyone the ability

>to comment, complain and correct.

I was not posted to BIMC before it could be amneded for the uni paper.
 In the end it was not run in the uni paper bease of the allegations
about the Dail Mail, but has that not been in it, none of us at BIMC
would have had a chance to correct.

>Secondly, although Tonys quoted emails are extremely sarcastic 
>sounding, there is nothing abusive, ranting or insulting in them.

He publicaly accuses her of being 'pro-Zionist (right wing)' simply because
she hid his article.  As emails have no non-verbal/tonal signals to show
sarcasm, the interpretation is with the reader, and Anarchobabe took
them seriously.  

>As I myself have recieved a couple of unsolicited long emails from 
>Kyra recently, again one rule for one...

Did you request that she not?  If she emailed after you asked her not
to, then that is more serious.  Unsoliocited email cannot be considered
rude, else how else could you espablish contact.  It gets rude if you
ask to be left alone, and are ignored.

>Chucking him out was too harsh and not at all in proportion to 
>the 'crimes' he is alleged to have committed. 

Tony, though this feud, has ended up angering most of the active core
of BIMC.  With no disrespcet to others, it is this core who keep the
project running.  Tony has angered a lot of people and it is he who,
IMHO, needs to start building some bridges.

>but none of the mods would put my mail through to the list, so I had

>to sign back in... conspiracy or just not got round to it?)

You don't need anyone to sign you to the list - you can do it yourself.

>I object to non BIMC volunteers and anonymous users, such as myself,
 
>being told we're unimportant and can be ignored.  Or that people who

>cant make the meetings should be ignored.  BIMC has rapidly moved away

>from being about and for the people, and has become about and for a

>small dictatorial bunch. 

I'm sorry you feel that accusation, but it is this small bunch who's
dedication means the site exists.  Sure, not everyone can make meetings,
 but it is the dedecate core who keeping attending and working who make
the site what it is.  Words are fine, but the site runs on action too.

Tom.





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