[CIMC-working] ignore previous, Channel11/CMWG endorsement

[Chris Kaihatsu]

Garth, all,

I prefer sticking to our CIMC practice of not formally endorsing other
organizations. Of course revolutionary/progressive/activist groups are
welcome to post on ours and other Indymedia sites.

Anyone interested in these media issues should consider becoming active
around them. I don't think Indymedia is suited to the same role that the
CPMWG plays, though. Indymedia has been about grassroots, activist
journalism.

I welcome other CIMC participants' input -- lately it's just been Doug,
Garth, and myself weighing in.


Chris







on 12/29/02 2:11 AM, Garth Liebhaber at garthliebhaber@hotmail.com wrote:

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> hey all,
> =A0=A0=A0 let me clarify on the Channel 11/ CMWG proposal draft.=A0 I think I use=
d
> too many pronouns.=A0 I don't know the history of the relationships with
> channel 11 and progressive media folk around Chicago, more so particularl=
y
> the folks listed as present or potential endorsers, some of which are not
> media groups but issue related groups.
> =A0=A0=A0 One concern of mine is that the CMWG has decided upon a time and plac=
e
> for a meeting without consulting the other party.=A0 It seems rather arroga=
nt
> and, at least, a blunder in diplomacy.=A0 Related to this is that the tone =
of
> language comes across to me as obnoxiously demanding in a way that to me
> seems counterproductive.=A0 It's missing common courtesy.=A0 If I were in
> Channel 11's shoes, my reaction would be "whatever, I've got enough probl=
ems
> to deal with, these guys don't care about my problems, I think I'll ignor=
e
> them."
> =A0=A0=A0 I think a better response would be to act in a more 'professional'
> manner, reflective of the skills and qualities we posess.=A0 "Channel 11, w=
e
> are media involved people and with a constituency of endorsing groups, we
> would like to address your lack of coverage on the war with Iraq..."
> =A0=A0=A0 Be clear that I am not in support of a "toned down wimpy approach" th=
at
> accepts the bullshit of why nothing can be changed.=A0 What I am in support=
 of
> is an intelligent method of approach that is remarkably similar to a well
> played game of chess (or euchre).
> =A0=A0=A0 These are my sticking points for an endorsement.=A0 If we do put
> endorsements on anything, it should be very strongly relevant to our
> mission.=A0 I hope this clarifies my thoughts, Garth
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> =A0    =A0    From: Mitchell Szczepanczyk <msszczep@midway.uchicago.edu>
> To: Garth Liebhaber <garthliebhaber@hotmail.com>
> CC: imc-chicago-working@indymedia.org
> Subject: Re: [CIMC-working] egad, and other responses, from mr. g.
> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:33:40 -0600 (CST)
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> On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Garth Liebhaber wrote:
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>> hey folks, =A0=A0=A0=A0 read through the emails.=A0 here's some responses. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0
>> 1.=A0 Chicago Media Working Groups proposal to Channel 11.=A0 While we aren'=
t
>> in denial about being media activists, I would want more
>> discussion/background info on the dynamics.=A0 I'm curious about the langu=
age
>> in the proposal.=A0 If we got a letter out of the blue from a group we'd h=
ad
>> little or no relationship with before telling us they set a meeting up a=
nd
>> decided the time and place without our input I think we would likely ign=
ore
>> them.
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> Garth,
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> Please note: The Working Group is not a group that's come out of
> nowwhere.=A0 Chris G and Chris K are members of the Working Group, as am
> I; Don Goldhamer has been to a meeting.=A0 Other members include
> representatives from Labor Beat and Citizens from Independent
> Public Broadcasting--Chicago.
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> But I'm looking at this with jaundiced eyes. :-) I'll let others chime in
> on this matter.
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> -- Mitchell
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