[CIMC-working] Re: [Keyservers] proposal

Chris Kaihatsu ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:08:07 -0600


Micah, all,

> I dont think anyone would disagree
> that we need to build webs of trust, we just need to create the technical
> infrastructure to enable it to happen easily.


Good distinction.


Chris






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----- Original Message -----
From: Micah Anderson <micah@indymedia.org>
To: Chris Kaihatsu <ckaihatsu@myrealbox.com>
Cc: <keyservers@lists.indymedia.org>; <imc-chicago-working@indymedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Keyservers] proposal


> I too think this is a great idea Arc. I've been quietly collecting my own
> IMC keyring as I go along, which I would love to use to jumpstart this. I
> think it would be a really good foundation to start with, the debian
keyring
> process is an inspirational model, and I dont think anyone would disagree
> that we need to build webs of trust, we just need to create the technical
> infrastructure to enable it to happen easily.
>
> Micah
>
>
> Chris Kaihatsu schrieb am Tuesday, den 05. November 2002:
>
> > Arc, all,
> >
> > This is excellent work that is underway. The webs of trust that are
formalized by the GPG process may become very important -- if it's not
already -- to Indymedia's work.
> >
> > My point may especially be appreciated by anyone who's experienced any
kind of interference in the process of their reporting to Indymedia sites.
> >
> > If authentication can be done bottom-up, and face-to-face, then I think
we'll be building the basis of real, secure, and authenticated speech for
Indymedia reporting and communication.
> >
> > While GPG is still rather technical and requires a learning curve, it's
a smart investment for anyone to make who cares about communication
integrity and is working for change.
> >
> > I hope to be using GPG soon and making my public keys available through
local-to-global chains of authentication.
> >
> > Best to all -- thanx, Arc.
> >
> >
> > Chris Kaihatsu
> > (Chicago IMC)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arc <arc@indymedia.org>
> > To: keyservers@lists.indymedia.org
> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:02:23 -0500
> > Subject: [Keyservers] proposal
> >
> > Ok, since the attempted meetings failed, I'm just going to make this
> > proposal here.
> >
> > I see the need for both a "keyserver" and a "keyring", both for
> > keys.indy to serve us internally and for it to serve other activist
> > groups, plus the webs of trust are very likely to cross borders many
> > times...
> >
> > So here's the proposal.  We keep it being a keyserver, but we enable
> > "keyrings" within that server (simply by adding extra GnuPG keyrings,
> > other than the generic "public" one).  All keys which are sent to the
> > server go into the public keyring, but by some mechanism they can be
> > accepted as part of a specific keyring "ie, Indymedia".
> >
> > I think, for now, we'll need to manage the keyring membership by hand -
> > that is, people we know are involved with Indymedia are moved over.  I
> > can setup a system via signed fingerprints/etc where "users" are keys in
> > the database and certain users are known to be keyring managers, those
> > users being able to sign the fingerprints of other keys etc etc.
> > Technicalities need to be worked out, but the point is this would create
> > the first free keyring service on the net.
> >
> > Search can, by default, search "Everyone" but be limited via dropdown
> > box/etc to search just in a specific keyring.  This solves our searching
> > issue.
> >
> > What do you all think?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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