[CIMC-working] PROPOSED: compilations on election debates
Chris Kaihatsu
ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:14:03 -0600
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Yeah, I thought we settled this issue at yesterday's meeting. I made my =
position clear.
Chris
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From: ChrisGeovanis@aol.com=20
To: being@enteract.com ; imc-chicago-working@lists.indymedia.org=20
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CIMC-working] PROPOSED: compilations on election debates
OK, let me say that -- as someone who worked her first precinct for an =
electoral candidate at the age of 14 I AM NOT KIDDING! -- I really am =
viscerally not liking the idea of this story block. Couple reasons: 1) =
it's old news; 2) I oppose having to privilage in any way in the center =
column the tired old liberal canards about the importance of voting; 3) =
other Indy center panel coverage of this issue was, IMHO, crappy, and I =
fail to see why we should expend the effort to do 'better' a day late =
and a dollar short; 4) I'd much rather see center panel coverage go to =
important local issues like the impending Dominicks strike, the ongoing =
Azteca strike, the stunning police presence for the TABD and it's =
implied threat to the right to dissent (particularly since it's becoming =
increasingly clear that the City of Chicago is leveraging to get the G8 =
to Chicago for 2004), etc.
I could go on, but I have other work to do. So let me close by asking: =
why, why, why?
christine
In a message dated 11/11/2002 12:06:40 AM Central Standard Time, =
being@enteract.com writes:
Subj:[CIMC-working] PROPOSED: compilations on election debates=20
Date:11/11/2002 12:06:40 AM Central Standard Time
From:being@enteract.com
To:imc-chicago-working@lists.indymedia.org
Sent from the Internet=20
Hi all,
I believe some people won't like this idea. But I really like it. =
So I=20
float it out there.
Not sure if I have time to do it. But seems worth thinking about...
Based on discussions at this evening's meeting, these ideas come up:
Two indy compilations on election debates:
One for the chicago wire
One for the center column
For the wire: an index of Election debates on the Chicago newswire =
in=20
last week, and perhaps a few other midwestern imcs
(not necessarily all inclusive, but comprehensive in looking for =
many views)
Format:
- A summary paragraph at top noting issues debated.
- Then, index of posts about election:
article number: one short phrase or sentence summarize main =
point of each post
For center column: Election Debates
Part 1: Include that summary paragraph above -- and perhaps a list =
of topics
Part 2 (or 2nd feature): Create a list of features from other imc's =
on=20
elections/election debates
Make an index of the content of those features as above or in this =
way
name of imc: short descript of feature content
I am thinking of proposing Part 2 as a compilation to the =
www-features group...
But I'd like to raise it here first. As I think it would make a =
great=20
local feature(s).
Given that Tuesday is 1 week after the elections and that we had =
TABD in=20
the meantime, it seems that it would be understandable for us to put =
this=20
up at that time.
We introduce the first summary above with something as simple as =
this=20
(boiling it down):
Head: US ELECTIONS
Title: Debates about the future of democracy
One week after the elections and after the TABD protests, we offer =
this=20
summary and index of debates about the U.S. elections and the future =
of=20
democracy. In posts to the Chicago IMC newswire, some argued about =
best=20
strategies for progressive politicing by democrats, greens, =
independents,=20
etc. Others have advanced more radical critiques, such as of the =
illusion=20
of democracy in our country, where elections which are bought and =
paid for=20
by corporations. Other have presented arguments about the inherent =
problems=20
with elections and representation in any society.
[Perhaps also:
The following articles are the tip of a national and international =
debate.=20
Hence, we also included in the second part of this feature links to=20
features by other IMCs on these issues: ]
Comments?
Best, Doug
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CIMC-working] =
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compilations on election debates</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DArial =
lang=3D0 size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">OK, let me say that -- as someone who worked her =
first=20
precinct for an electoral candidate at the age of 14 I AM NOT KIDDING! =
-- I=20
really am viscerally not liking the idea of this story block. Couple =
reasons:=20
1) it's old news; 2) I oppose having to privilage in any way in the =
center=20
column the tired old liberal canards about the importance of voting; =
3) other=20
Indy center panel coverage of this issue was, IMHO, crappy, and I fail =
to see=20
why we should expend the effort to do 'better' a day late and a dollar =
short;=20
4) I'd much rather see center panel coverage go to important local =
issues like=20
the impending Dominicks strike, the ongoing Azteca strike, the =
stunning police=20
presence for the TABD and it's implied threat to the right to dissent=20
(particularly since it's becoming increasingly clear that the City of =
Chicago=20
is leveraging to get the G8 to Chicago for 2004), etc.<BR><BR>I could =
go on,=20
but I have other work to do. So let me close by asking: why, why,=20
why?<BR><BR>christine<BR><BR>In a message dated 11/11/2002 12:06:40 AM =
Central=20
Standard Time, being@enteract.com writes:<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj:<B>[CIMC-working] PROPOSED: compilations on =
election=20
debates </B><BR>Date:11/11/2002 12:06:40 AM Central Standard =
Time<BR>From:<A=20
href=3D"mailto:being@enteract.com">being@enteract.com</A><BR>To:<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:imc-chicago-working@lists.indymedia.org">imc-chicago-worki=
ng@lists.indymedia.org</A><BR><I>Sent=20
from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi all,<BR><BR>I believe some =
people=20
won't like this idea. But I really like it. So I <BR>float it =
out=20
there.<BR>Not sure if I have time to do it. But seems worth =
thinking=20
about...<BR><BR>Based on discussions at this evening's meeting, =
these ideas=20
come up:<BR><BR>Two indy compilations on election =
debates:<BR><BR>One for=20
the chicago wire<BR>One for the center column<BR><BR>For the=20
wire: an index of Election debates on the Chicago =
newswire in=20
<BR>last week, and perhaps a few other midwestern =
imcs<BR> =20
(not necessarily all inclusive, but comprehensive in looking for =
many=20
views)<BR><BR>Format:<BR>- A summary paragraph at top noting issues=20
debated.<BR>- Then, index of posts about =
election:<BR> =20
article number: one short phrase or sentence summarize main point of =
each=20
post<BR><BR>For center column: Election =
Debates<BR><BR>Part=20
1: Include that summary paragraph above -- and perhaps a list =
of=20
topics<BR><BR>Part 2 (or 2nd feature): Create a list of =
features from=20
other imc's on <BR>elections/election debates<BR>Make an index of =
the=20
content of those features as above or in this =
way<BR> name=20
of imc: short descript of feature content<BR><BR>I am thinking =
of=20
proposing Part 2 as a compilation to the www-features =
group...<BR><BR>But=20
I'd like to raise it here first. As I think it would =
make a=20
great <BR>local feature(s).<BR><BR>Given that Tuesday is 1 week =
after the=20
elections and that we had TABD in <BR>the meantime, it seems that it =
would=20
be understandable for us to put this <BR>up at that time.<BR><BR>We=20
introduce the first summary above with something as simple as this=20
<BR>(boiling it down):<BR><BR>Head: US ELECTIONS<BR><BR>Title: =
Debates=20
about the future of democracy<BR><BR>One week after the elections =
and after=20
the TABD protests, we offer this <BR>summary and index of debates =
about the=20
U.S. elections and the future of <BR>democracy. In posts to the =
Chicago IMC=20
newswire, some argued about best <BR>strategies for progressive =
politicing=20
by democrats, greens, independents, <BR>etc. Others have advanced =
more=20
radical critiques, such as of the illusion <BR>of democracy in our =
country,=20
where elections which are bought and paid for <BR>by corporations. =
Other=20
have presented arguments about the inherent problems <BR>with =
elections and=20
representation in any society.<BR><BR>[Perhaps also:<BR>The =
following=20
articles are the tip of a national and international debate. =
<BR>Hence, we=20
also included in the second part of this feature links to =
<BR>features by=20
other IMCs on these issues: ]<BR><BR>Comments?<BR><BR>Best,=20
=
Doug<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Imc-chicag=
o-working=20
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