[CIMC-working] (last one, really!) Fw: [Imc-finance] Re: Funding Nigeria-imc: 3 items to consider/ Ambazonia

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Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:23:20 -0600






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----- Original Message -----
From: Petros Evdokas <petros_cyprus@burleehost.net>
To: valentine V eben <vally_x@lycos.com>; <imc-finance@lists.indymedia.org>;
<imc-ambazonia-contact@lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: imc- new <new-imc@lists.indymedia.org>; Jay <jay@tao.ca>; Mrs.Tabe
<eyongtj@yahoo.com>; valentine V eben <vally_x@mailcity.com>;
<imc-nigeria@indymedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:52 AM
Subject: [Imc-finance] Re: Funding Nigeria-imc: 3 items to consider/
Ambazonia


>
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to thank you for your thoughts regarding
> the funding which the future imc-Ambazonia group has
> requested from the imc-finance working group.  Your
> thoughts will certainly help us make a better decision.
> (Below is a copy of your letter. The imc-Ambazonia
> funding application is somehow linked to the
> imc-Nigeria application, so I'm including a copy of
> this letter to imc-Nigeria as well.)
>
> In the meantime, while we try to figure out how to
> address these complex problems, I'd like to encourage
> you to continue with your application process with the
> New-imc working group. There seems to be a lot of good
> work in your group's application, and very few steps
> are left to finish the process. One item which will
> need to be addressed is your group's policy toward the
> lesbian, gay, bi- and trans- sexual liberation process,
> which is an important part of the emerging identity of
> the globalised Resistance and Liberation Movement. You
> have already addressed very well issues of racism,
> tribalism, etc in your position papers, and it would be
> good to see you address this branch of the human
> experience as well.
>
> Looking forward to more co-operation with you,
> Petros
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>
>
>
> To: imc-finance@lists.indymedia.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:38:39 -0500
> From: "valentine V eben" <vally_x@lycos.com>
>
> Reply-To: vally_x@lycos.com
> Subject: [Imc-finance] Fwd: Re: [imc-ambazonia-contact]
> Funding Nigeria-imc: 3 items to consider
>
>
> --------- Forwarded Message ---------
>
> DATE: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:15:17
> From: imc-ambazonia-contact-admin@lists.indymedia.org
> To: imc-ambazonia-contact@lists.indymedia.org
>
> This Frank reacting from Yaounde Cameroun, the other
> Cameroon. I should congratulate Petros for his frank
> talk. That reminds me of a column "FrankTalk" I ran in
> a local newspaper back here in Cameroon. As frank as
> my name or so I thought.
> Petros has been very frank, for the first time
> pointing out possible misconducts in indymedia. I'm
> worried because my first impressions of indymedia were
> those of an group of the most sincere persons, sincere
> and open to a fault, to such a fault that they won't
> tolerate those who mince words in traditional media
> outlets because of editorial constraints, the reason
> they go to such lengths in quest of the truth or in
> helping others feel free to tell the truth.
> Now to learn that records are sometimes not made
> straight and no one raises a voice in protest or for
> accountability, I begin to wonder whether it is not
> another opportunistic group, where people feign
> involvement to ideals only to position themselves for
> "gold". I wonder whether there are any avenues to
> goldmines through indymedia.
> Petros is right to express concerns about general
> silence from imc-ambazonia. But he should understand
> that imc is not just one other media idea. It is the
> extraordinary; and it takes understanding to know whow
> to contribute to debates like I'msurely doing now or
> to contribute articles to the website.
> Valentine has been dying for that, lamenting our
> non-participation. I've written back to him on
> occasions to say it is not flooding the site that's a
> problem, but understanding first the ideals of imc,
> the true motivations behind imc, etc.
> It is not news or comments that are lacking. By the
> way I and Martin are newsmen, who surely have not been
> able to publish or broadcast some nems item, because
> it won't tally with editorial policy. So why not on
> the imc-ambazonia website.
> But please let me get to know what imc is and I'm
> speaking here for myself, that for me it takes meeting
> Jay, talking to him, asking him questions and hearing
> others interact with him.
> It doesn't matter where that happens - in
> Yaounde-Cameroun, Victoria, Kumba, Bamenda,
> Buea-Ambazonia, or wherever.
> I want to meet Jay! And I'm preparing to do so. I'm
> not waitiong for any funding from anywhere, fears of
> mismanagement or not. Only too good if there is
> assistance from somewhere, because, in spite of my
> intentions, I really can't tell how I'll make. But
> come Jay now or some time after, I look  ,up to
> meeting him or someone on imc mission, sooner or later
> to begin to get into the mainstream of imc. Judge me
> after that and, as the case may be, audit me.
> Thanks, Petros for your thought-provoking frankness.
> But I really wonder whether imc-Nigeria needed your
> punches as hard as you gave them, if they have
> explanations to your queries.
> Why not wait for. Marcuss Sky mayn't have been an
> appointed advocate.
> Best regards.
>
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