[CIMC-work] FW: project censored's request: We need your opinion for our nex

[Garth Liebhaber]

Derek,
     It is difficult to answer your question because it is rather general.  
Any immediate response that come to mind feels like useless 
rhetoric/ranting/diatribe.
     Web based independent news sources are great.  Indymedia's been great 
too, it's made a lot possible.  I think there are other cultural shifts to 
be made.  The fact that lots of people like the major brand security, so 
most people watch Fox News at nine just as they purchase other brands that 
they are familiar with.
    Of course Independent News is important.  Will it save the planet?  
Personally I don't look to technology to save the planet.  I feel I use it 
in order to do some sort of good work while living in this belly of the 
beast.  I think that there are other important cultural shifts to work on.  
Such as Cooperation over Competition.  Or talking to strangers on the 
street. Planting a garden.
    I ask myself these questions.  Was peace impossible before the advent of 
the personal computer?  Do we need to wait until micro computers are planted 
in our brains complete with instantaneous wireless messaging?  The Gutenberg 
press didn't seem to do much to end wars.  In the Greek Comedy of 
Lysistrata, the women of the opposing sides seemed to be able to come 
together in a way to end the war.  That occurred before the press.
     To go a step furthur, we can look at certain indigenous cultures.  They 
seem to hold to the saying that you don't need a weatherman to tell you 
which way the wind blows.  What about cultures that don't utilize material 
technology to any great extent?  Perhaps information too big for our heads 
isn't necessary anyway?  But then, we're the ones suffering from 
Alzheimers..  I don't mean to overidealize indigenous cultures, and I do 
mean to add the sound of discussion to my voice.
    Still, we need our civilization we need our independent press for the 
same reasons as 100, 300 years ago.  More for the message than the 
messenger.
    These are my thoughts, hope they're useful.



   My opinion in a nutshell is that yeah, it's great,  a lot of good work 
has been made possible by independent news.  At the same time most people 
still watch the the 9:00 Fox News.


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>
>I thought this should be sent from tech to the working group list for
>input.--Elizabeth

> >
> >
> >
> >Tue Apr  8 21:57:16 2003: Request 1733 was acted upon.
> >Transaction: Ticket created by Project.Censored@indymedia.org
> >        Queue: help
> >      Subject: We need your opinion for our next book.
> >        Owner: Nobody
> >   Requestors: Project.Censored@indymedia.org
> >       Status: new
> >  Ticket <URL: http://rt.indymedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1733 >
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >--
> >
> >From: solar_geek@yahoo.com
> >Name: Project Censored, Sonoma State University, California
> >
> >Message: Hello Indymedia,
> >
> >My name is Derek and I'm a writer with Project Censored with Peter
> >Phillips at Sonoma State University.  For our next book to be
> >published, I am writing  a piece talking about independent online
> >news sites and what they are doing to help provide news in a
> >corporate media saturated environment.
> >I would like to know opinion on what's new with independent news and
> >its importance in the world today.  We hope have to the opportunity
> >to use you words in our next book.  Thanks.
> >
> >Article:
> >Site:
> >
> >Additional Comments: Most sites aren't responding back and I hope
> >that maybe you can break the pattern.
> >
> >Derek Fieldsoe
> >Project Censored
> >Sonoma State University
>
>
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>obsolete.
>
>Buckminster Fuller
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