[CIMC-work] FW: project censored's request: We need your opinion for our nex

[Chris Kaihatsu]

Garth, Derek, all,

I pretty much agree with your comments, Garth. The only thing I'd like to
add is that the Internet provides a qualitative leap in communications
ability, even beyond conference calls. The net enables many-to-many
communication, meaning that individuals and groups may seamlessly interact
with any other individuals and groups, anywhere in the world -- given
access, free software, and unrestricted information routing.

Nothing quite matches the functionality of email and listserves, and of
course the web is unrivaled for user-friendliness and diversity of (recent)
information.

It is primarily for this ease of distribution over the net that I am with
Chicago Indymedia because it allows me as a journalist to document news and
distribute it to a worldwide audience, "myself."


Chris






on 4/11/03 11:33 PM, Garth Liebhaber at garthliebhaber@hotmail.com wrote:

> Derek,
> It is difficult to answer your question because it is rather general.
> Any immediate response that come to mind feels like useless
> rhetoric/ranting/diatribe.
> Web based independent news sources are great.  Indymedia's been great
> too, it's made a lot possible.  I think there are other cultural shifts to
> be made.  The fact that lots of people like the major brand security, so
> most people watch Fox News at nine just as they purchase other brands that
> they are familiar with.
> Of course Independent News is important.  Will it save the planet?
> Personally I don't look to technology to save the planet.  I feel I use it
> in order to do some sort of good work while living in this belly of the
> beast.  I think that there are other important cultural shifts to work on.
> Such as Cooperation over Competition.  Or talking to strangers on the
> street. Planting a garden.
> I ask myself these questions.  Was peace impossible before the advent of
> the personal computer?  Do we need to wait until micro computers are planted
> in our brains complete with instantaneous wireless messaging?  The Gutenberg
> press didn't seem to do much to end wars.  In the Greek Comedy of
> Lysistrata, the women of the opposing sides seemed to be able to come
> together in a way to end the war.  That occurred before the press.
> To go a step furthur, we can look at certain indigenous cultures.  They
> seem to hold to the saying that you don't need a weatherman to tell you
> which way the wind blows.  What about cultures that don't utilize material
> technology to any great extent?  Perhaps information too big for our heads
> isn't necessary anyway?  But then, we're the ones suffering from
> Alzheimers..  I don't mean to overidealize indigenous cultures, and I do
> mean to add the sound of discussion to my voice.
> Still, we need our civilization we need our independent press for the
> same reasons as 100, 300 years ago.  More for the message than the
> messenger.
> These are my thoughts, hope they're useful.
> 
> 
> 
> My opinion in a nutshell is that yeah, it's great,  a lot of good work
> has been made possible by independent news.  At the same time most people
> still watch the the 9:00 Fox News.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I thought this should be sent from tech to the working group list for
>> input.--Elizabeth
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tue Apr  8 21:57:16 2003: Request 1733 was acted upon.
>>> Transaction: Ticket created by Project.Censored@indymedia.org
>>> Queue: help
>>> Subject: We need your opinion for our next book.
>>> Owner: Nobody
>>> Requestors: Project.Censored@indymedia.org
>>> Status: new
>>> Ticket <URL: http://rt.indymedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1733 >
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> 
>>> From: solar_geek@yahoo.com
>>> Name: Project Censored, Sonoma State University, California
>>> 
>>> Message: Hello Indymedia,
>>> 
>>> My name is Derek and I'm a writer with Project Censored with Peter
>>> Phillips at Sonoma State University.  For our next book to be
>>> published, I am writing  a piece talking about independent online
>>> news sites and what they are doing to help provide news in a
>>> corporate media saturated environment.
>>> I would like to know opinion on what's new with independent news and
>>> its importance in the world today.  We hope have to the opportunity
>>> to use you words in our next book.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Article:
>>> Site:
>>> 
>>> Additional Comments: Most sites aren't responding back and I hope
>>> that maybe you can break the pattern.
>>> 
>>> Derek Fieldsoe
>>> Project Censored
>>> Sonoma State University
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
>> To change something, build a NEW model that makes the existing model
>> obsolete.
>> 
>> Buckminster Fuller
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