[CIMC-working] (index of IMC-Process posts for Nov. '02, Dec. '02, Jan. '03)
FW: [IMC-Process] summary
Chris Kaihatsu
ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:57:51 -0600
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From: ana <penasana@yahoo.es>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:48:58 +0100 (CET)
To: imc-process@lists.indymedia.org
Subject: [IMC-Process] summary
Sorry,
I said I would do it for the whole year but no, this
is 'only' for november, december 2002 and january 2003
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to date. (for summaries working group: i'm not
including new imc-s, unless in UK)
A summary from october 2002 is available here:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-uk-process/2002-October/00093=
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Currently re-thinking facilitation, even re-thinking
the list, that's how i would summarise it.
Facilitation hasn't solved the problems that was
intended to solve
background:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-October/004095.h=
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is the original proposal for facilitation, from imc
sf.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004400.=
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where Doug announces the facilitation of notes in
imc process and enumerates the criteria for screening
messages (rejecting emails from the list)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004403.=
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where Petros says that for reasons of transparency,
anyone with access to any Indymedia passwords
should be listed somewhere, visibly, and be openly
accountable to all of us.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004490.h=
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where Dough names the screening criteria (junk mail
& abusive posts) and suggests to add to these,
extensive crossposting and exact duplicate posts. In
another post he defines abusive: sexually abusive
language or extremely worded attacks on people's
character or activism. It would also mean to use
terms of racial, gender, cultural or other
discrimination.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004326.=
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where Andy sees there should be some sort of formal
membership criteria or formal democratic
decision-making process
(a conversation about this follows, with no
conclusion or proposed action)
On the 3rd of January Tony from UK posted a summary
of discussions taken place recently - useful if you
don't want to read this whole email:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004480.h=
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On the 17th of january, Doug provides a summary of
facilitation points discussed by imc-process
co-facilitators on and off the
imc-process-facilitation list over the last two
weeks.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004535.h=
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Here,
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004339.=
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Andy seems to propose some kind of "IMC police", and
a trustworthy sytem of voting...
almost a month later, he goes on about voting and a
more formal democratic process within IMC, incluing
more explicit membership criteria. (very long email):
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004415.=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004427.h=
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where Andy again makes some proposals, like
Clarification Roles of Resolve and Process lists,
transparency of List Administrators and Moderators,
and Their Methods, a Vote, When Lacking Consensus, and
the need for IMC "Courts" and "Police" (long email
too)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004431.h=
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chucko says Andy's post was disruptive and proposes
IMC network participants to have a series of
face-to-face meetings (or conventions).
(this leads to a strong email by Andy, and mutual
abuse...)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004443.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004455.h=
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the discussion leading to proposal to put chuck on a
"postings held for approval" list for new-imc ):
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-January/004418.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004497.h=
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summary of this and argument that this is a bad
idea:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004500.h=
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final block from new-imc: chucko is not banned from
new-imc: (although the ban is de facto in place
already at new-imc) (and relation of emails related to
this)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004508.h=
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here,
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004504.h=
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sheri attempts a relation of our "policies" that
need defined:
* policy about blocking and how we do that on this
list? =20
* what is our "decision-making agreement" , and how
does it work? =20
* a simple etiquette when posting to the list -
could try, if people don't comply after several
incidents, they are asked to be "quiet" for a bit and
their speaking privileges are limited for a period of
time.=20
* banning people policy. do we have one?
* cross-posting policy.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004467.h=
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is the report of a discussion of resolve issues
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004461.h=
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a remark that all the abuse has been done entirely
by men (but then if the summarizer hadn't been a woman
this would probably not be in this summary)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004456.h=
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proposal to have a network face-to-face meeting in
DC (USA)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004470.h=
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a bit of history of calls for meetings and the need
for regional meetings
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004475.h=
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chucko says DC is not centric (Michel later will ask
how can a point on the surface of a sphere be central?
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004489.h=
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different issues brought up in this discussion
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004477.h=
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more backing for regional meetings by John.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004478.h=
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a reminder that the goal behind the whole Ford
Foundation thing was to enable a series of regional
meetings network wide.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004482.h=
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call for such an such an encuentro in Chiapas.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004488.h=
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thoughts: maybe a global network is not workable,
only as interchange of info an interesting thread
follows:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004509.h=
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proposal to revise the liason system in this list:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004527.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004329.=
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see thread for internal conflict in Houston...
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004410.=
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where some one from houston joins to see if he can
find answers to some persistent internal problems in
HIMC function (dysfunction) (you can follow this
thread too)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004421.h=
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more on houston
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004332.=
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where a petition is placed to all participants to give
info on themselves on
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcProcessWhosWho
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004371.=
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where Brian clarifies that the group called Tactical
Media Fund, is a group NOT part of the Indymedia
Network. are trying to raise money
for independent media work, including the IMC's around
the world. He compares them to Chumbawamba, raising
money for another group (such as the IMC network).
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004373.=
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where Dough invites to form a list, strategies, to
discuss issues like Tech strategies, Legal issues
Funding strategies Internal communication systems and
practices Translation strategies Strategic
Relationships- Editorial philosophy and practices
- The IMC principles of unity and local membership
criteria: revisions? interpretations?- Conflict
resolution and arbitration
Ewan proposes even more topics:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004374.=
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A new IMC is proposed: housing imc, not a local IMC.
subject-oriented
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004416.=
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more on an imc for homeless:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004460.h=
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Roving provides the threads of this discussion in
process and in syndication;
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004483.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004525.h=
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Lancaster IMC accepted!!
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004425.h=
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begins as a discussion between 2 facilitator about the
criteria for rejecting emails that have been
cross-posted, but it derives in a discussion of
personal differences. the sustainability of
facilitation of the list is also discussed.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004426.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004424.h=
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(you can follow the thread)
issue of naming of palestina imc:
'jerusalem.indymedia.org ...
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004502.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004476.h=
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