[CIMC-working] FW: [Imc-summaries] Dec/Jan summary of imc-process

Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:47:30 -0600

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A summary from october 2002 is available here:

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-uk-process/2002-October/00093=
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Currently re-thinking facilitation, even re-thinking the list, that's how i
would
summarise it. Facilitation hasn't solved the problems that was intended to
solve=20

background:=20

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-October/004095.h=
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is the original proposal for facilitation, from imc sf.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004400.=
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where Doug announces the facilitation of notes in imc process and enumerate=
s
the criteria
for screening messages (rejecting emails from the list)

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004403.=
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where Petros says that for reasons of transparency, anyone with access to
any Indymedia
passwords=20
should be listed somewhere, visibly, and be openly
accountable to all of us.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004490.h=
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where Dough names the screening criteria (junk mail & abusive posts) and
suggests to add
to these, extensive crossposting and exact duplicate posts. In another post
he defines
abusive: sexually abusive language or extremely worded attacks on people's
character or
activism. It would also mean to use terms of racial, gender, cultural or
other
discrimination.=20

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004326.=
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where Andy sees there should be some sort of formal membership criteria or
formal
democratic decision-making process (a conversation about this follows, with
no conclusion
or proposed action)

On the 3rd of January Tony from UK posted a summary of discussions taken
place recently -
useful if you don't want to read this whole email:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004480.h=
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On the 17th of january, Doug provides a summary of facilitation points
discussed by
imc-process co-facilitators on and off the imc-process-facilitation list
over the last
two=20
weeks.=20
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004535.h=
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Here,=20
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004339.=
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Andy seems to propose some kind of "IMC police", and a trustworthy sytem of
voting...=20

almost a month later, he goes on about voting and a more formal democratic
process within
IMC, incluing more explicit membership criteria. (very long email):
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004415.=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004427.h=
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where Andy again makes some proposals, like Clarification Roles of Resolve
and Process
lists, transparency of List Administrators and Moderators, and Their
Methods, a Vote,
When Lacking Consensus, and the need for IMC "Courts" and "Police" (long
email too)=20

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004431.h=
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chucko says Andy's post was disruptive and proposes IMC network participant=
s
to have a
series of face-to-face meetings (or conventions).

(this leads to a strong email by Andy, and mutual abuse...)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004443.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004455.h=
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the discussion leading to proposal to put chuck on a "postings held for
approval" list
for new-imc ):=20
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/new-imc/2003-January/004418.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004497.h=
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summary of this and argument that this is a bad idea:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004500.h=
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final block from new-imc: chucko is not banned from new-imc: (although the
ban is de
facto in place already at new-imc) (and relation of emails related to this)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004508.h=
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here,=20
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004504.h=
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sheri attempts a relation of our "policies" that need defined:
* policy about blocking and how we do that on this list?
* what is our "decision-making agreement" , and how does it work?
* a simple etiquette when posting to the list - could try, if people don't
comply after
several incidents, they are asked to be "quiet" for a bit and their speakin=
g
privileges
are limited for a period of time.
* banning people policy. do we have one?
* cross-posting policy.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004467.h=
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is the report of a discussion of resolve issues

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004461.h=
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a remark that all the abuse has been done entirely by men (but then if the
summarizer
hadn't been a woman this would probably not be in this summary)

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004456.h=
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proposal to have a network face-to-face meeting in DC (USA)

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004470.h=
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a bit of history of calls for meetings and the need for regional meetings

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004475.h=
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chucko says DC is not centric (Michel later will ask how can a point on the
surface of a
sphere be central?=20

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004489.h=
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different issues brought up in this discussion

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004477.h=
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more backing for regional meetings by John.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004478.h=
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a reminder that the goal behind the whole Ford Foundation thing was to
enable a series of
regional meetings network wide.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004482.h=
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call for such an such an encuentro in Chiapas.

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004488.h=
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thoughts: maybe a global network is not workable, only as interchange of
info an
interesting thread follows:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004509.h=
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proposal to revise the liason system in this list:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004527.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004329.=
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see thread for internal conflict in Houston...

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004410.=
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where some one from houston joins to see if he can find answers to some
persistent
internal problems in HIMC function (dysfunction) (you can follow this
thread too)
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004421.h=
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more on houston=20

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004332.=
h
tml=20
where a petition is placed to all participants to give info on themselves o=
n
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcProcessWhosWho

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004371.=
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tml=20

where Brian clarifies that the group called Tactical Media Fund, is a group
NOT part of
the Indymedia Network. are trying to raise money for independent media work=
,
including
the IMC's around the world. He compares them to Chumbawamba, raising money
for another
group (such as the IMC network).

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004373.=
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where Dough invites to form a list, strategies, to discuss issues like Tech
strategies,
Legal issues Funding strategies Internal communication systems and practice=
s
Translation
strategies Strategic Relationships- Editorial philosophy and practices - Th=
e
IMC
principles of unity and local membership criteria: revisions?
interpretations?- Conflict
resolution and arbitration

Ewan proposes even more topics:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004374.=
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A new IMC is proposed: housing imc, not a local IMC. subject-oriented
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2002-December/004416.=
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more on an imc for homeless:
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004460.h=
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Roving provides the threads of this discussion in process and in
syndication;=20
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004483.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004525.h=
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Lancaster IMC accepted!!

http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004425.h=
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begins as a discussion between 2 facilitator about the criteria for
rejecting emails that
have been cross-posted, but it derives in a discussion of personal
differences. the
sustainability of facilitation of the list is also discussed.
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004426.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004424.h=
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(you can follow the thread)

issue of naming of palestina imc:
'jerusalem.indymedia.org ...
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004502.h=
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http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-process/2003-January/004476.h=
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about a way of tracking discussions on lists...

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