[CIMC-working] (IMC Istanbul needs technical assistance) FW: [imc-commwork]
Greetings from Indymedia-Istanbul Initiative
Chris Kaihatsu
ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Sat, 25 Jan 2003 04:01:04 -0600
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Subject: [imc-commwork] Greetings from Indymedia-Istanbul Initiative
Greetings from Indymedia-Istanbul Initiative,
please take a minute to read this:
As you probably know, we have a IMC site in pre-launch
stage:
http://istanbul.indymedia.org
Our problem is that, we seem to be unable to receive
sufficient technical assistance to solve the apparent
problems in our site. We do appreciate all the efforts
up to date and we acknowledge that all these efforts
are voluntary and this basis is amongst the strenghts
of the global indymedia community; but all we ask is
adequent technical assistance on a regular basis. We
can wait for any priorities of the indymedia community
to be handled first, but we have been waiting for
months without knowing when and how. We too are
volunteers dedicated to the indymedia ideals and the
realization of a lively IMC Istanbul is a necessity
for us.
We think that, to assume that the future of the
indymedia-Istanbul initiative is important for the
global indymedia community, is not assuming too much.
To post an e-mail to our list please use:
imc-turkey@lists.indymedia.org
with solidarity,
balaban
--- barkIn karsLI <barkinkarsli@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> CC: imc-turkey@lists.indymedia.org
> Subject: [Imc-turkey] To whom this upset letter on
> Istanbul and indymedia may concern
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:28:45 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>
>
> To whom this upset letter on Istanbul and indymedia
> may concern,
>
>
>
> In fact, it is difficult to decide to determine
> what, how and where to begin with our diminishing
> hopes and desire to establish an Istanbul
> -indymedia. Yes, we, a group of around 50 people,
> are about to give up all our efforts that we have
> been spending to be a part of this ?promising? site.
> Everyday resembles another scene from a Kafkaesk
> story. Every night that we see our efforts are not
> spent properly, solely due to conditionals that we
> cannot control, we assume more that we are waiting
> for a Godot to come. Yes, we are not being helped
> for reasons that we still could not cover, perceive
> or get a grasp of. The questions below might be
> descriptive of our growing concern for
> indymedia-Istanbul initiative?s future which we
> think will/or would have a direct impact on all
> anti-war activities now that weapon and oil traders
> once more wanna build new chateaus on the blood of
> innocent and poor Iraqi people:
>
>
>
> 1) For the last 5 months, or more, we did all
> we had to begin an Istanbul -imc. The problem was we
> needed help to establish a site for many reasons
> including the fragile political situation -
> worsening nowadays because of the approaching US
> attack -, our lack of enough equipment and so forth.
> We did all we were wanted so far. Sent all the files
> needed for an Istanbul -imc to SF indymedia and
> wanted help form many others as well. But we
> unfortunately think that we are talking to walls
> especially for the last 3 weeks. Might this be a
> deliberate ?gendered? attitude towards Istanbul and
> please, why, if so?
>
> 2) We were more than the number we are now. But
> participants are leaving the imc group seeing that
> the site still did not begin working. They are
> making anti war efforts elsewhere. Are we making a
> mistake in still believing that we can work
> imc-Istanbul to make a little contribution to the
> efforts for making all the people on Earth get a
> better access to what is happening around Iraq?
>
> 3) About 300 000 babies died in Iraq due to
> lack of food and medical aid in the last 7 years.
> Hegemon, monopolist Turkish media has a wide range
> of info, data, knowledge on this, but tries to hide
> or manipulate it in many ways. Why were we so far
> not permitted to interfere with the game they
> played?
>
>
>
> Dear all, we still have our signatures under the
> statement below. And we will never give up our
> alternative media and/or anti war efforts be it in
> imc-Istanbul or elsewhere. What upsets us is, we
> are very doubtful if anyone who has responsibility
> will be able to give an account of what is described
> above to and within history. And then, these will
> only be a part of an archive, which will testimony
> that more could be done to stop, prevent the war
> just as is the case for capitalism.
>
>
>
> We know actions speak louder than words.
>
>
>
> We need your help. Istanbul needs your help. Iraq
> needs your help.
>
>
>
> For imc-Istanbul site that we still insist to keep
> in spite of many inadequacies pls visit:
> http://Istanbul .indymedia.org
>
>
>
> To post an e-mail to our list pls use:
> imc-turkey@lists.indymedia.org
>
>
>
> Below is our statement of principles regarding
> indymedia-Istanbul dated May 2002:
>
>
>
> Indymedia-Istanbul initiative is composed of
> people who are in opposition to mainstream media
> hegemony that is made up of a few media cartels that
> continously manipulate people living in Turkey by
> giving either mistaken/false or incomplete
> information and data in line with legal government
> policies. The initiative objects to establish its
> own news channel(s) in time, not ignoring the other
> channels and reach the broadest range of people
> possible inside and outside Turkey. In spite of the
> fact that internet still is an 'elite' medium and
> thus has not a wide spectrum, the initiative aims to
> reach as many and much as it can via indymedia. The
> site that will be kept by the initiative shall tell
> about 'what, why, how, where, when and who' of that
> is going on in Turkey and try to diminish the
> destroying effects of mainstream media manipulation
> meanwhile. Turkish will be the main language.
> However and moreover, what is going on all over our
> old planet shall be tried to be translated to
> English (& probably to Kurdish) and given in the
> site for the same reasons cited above (this also
> will depend on our energy and time potentials). The
> English content of the site shall hopefully be
> useful for the peoples of the World, which might
> enable them not to get affected/infected and
> manipulated by international 'news' and/or
> 'information' cartels and thus reach more direct and
> real source of information&data regarding Turkey.
>
>
>
> Indymedia-Istanbul shall be the voice and
> discussion ground for those that don't and/or cannot
> find suitable seat to explain themselves through
> mainstream hegemonic media channels. We also want to
> widen indymedia to other parts of Turkey in the
> middle and long term which might in time be
> converted into indymedia-Turkey.
>
>
>
>
> with solidarity,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Indymedia-Istanbul Initiative
>
>
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>
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