[CIMC-work] FW: [IMC-Process] PROPOSAL: destruction of congo.indymedia.org

[Chris Kaihatsu]

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From: "Brian Szymanski" <ski at indymedia.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:18:14 -0400 (EDT)
To: imc-process at lists.indymedia.org
Subject: [IMC-Process] PROPOSAL: destruction of congo.indymedia.org

PROPOSAL:
destrucion del congo.indymedia.org
destruction of congo.indymedia.org

[es]

English below.

Congo.indymedia.org ha leido "Bobby Meade IMC" por mas de un anyo, y no ha
sido un sitio "open publishing" en este tiempo. Bobby Meade es un escritor
un poco loco norteamericano que publica muchas cosas absurdo en IMCs del
red indymedia. Trato decir que congo.indymedia.org es literalmente una
broma. Segun zapata y micah, congo nunca estaba un CMI.

Si era del congo, y viera esta pagina, tendria un efecto mal:
1) es posible que creo que hay un CMI en congo, pero esta muy
desfuncional, y seria menos probable intentar organizar un imc.
2) es posible que me ofenden que congo es el extremo de una broma.

Por esto, nos propongo quitar congo.indymedia.org de la red indymedia.

No soy liason de nadie, y tecnicalmente, no puedo proponer esto. Un CMI
tiene que "patrocine" esta oferta para que ser oficial. En ese punto, un
plazo seria fijado 7 dias a partir de la epoca de esto email.

Tambien (y esto no es formal), necesitamos un proceso mas formal para
quitamos IMCs disfuncional. Tengo unas ideas, pero no tengo la energia
para traducirlos a espanol :( Si habla ingles, leer mas abajo.

Unidad y Lucha,
Brian Szymanski
ski at indymedia.org
bks10 at cornell.edu


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Congo.indymedia.org has read "Bobby Meade IMC" for over a year now, and
during this time not been an open publishing site. For those of you
unfamiliar with Bobby Meade, he is a prolific writer of... "unusual"
material. Many IMC's have had persistent annoyances deleting his writings.
In other words, congo.indymedia.org as it is currently is literally a
joke. According to micah and zapata, congo never really was an IMC.

If I was from congo, wanting to start an IMC, and I saw that page, it
would have a demotivational effect:
1) I might think there is a congo IMC, but it is extremely disfunctional
(as opposed to non-existent, in which case I could start organizing)
2) I might think that congo is the butt of some sort of joke among 1st
world IMCistas.

Therefore. I propose that we delete congo.indymedia.org from DNS and,
after archiving and backing up any content on stallman, deleting the files
used by congo on stallman.

I am not a liason for any group, so technically I can't propose this (I
think). So, if someone would be so kind as to talk to their local IMC, get
consensus, and "sponsor" this proposal, that would rule. At that point, a
deadline would be set 7 days from the time of this "sponsor"ing email.

(end of proposal, the below is just an informal note about delisting
fucked imc's in general)

We also need a more formal process for delisting dead or dysfunctional (ie
BeachCities) IMCs. We need to formalize a process for this happening in
the future: namely by creating a process for declaring IMC's "dead",
similar to the New-IMC process (for example, it could be pointed out that,
say, 2 or more of the principles of unity are not met, the group has asked
to be deleted, nobody has been able to get in touch with the group for
over 2 months, etc.), and then a set of actions to take on these "dead
IMC's", such as:
  a) backing them up & removing them from the cities.inc and dns, and
their webserver
  b) providing an accessible archive of content that was posted to the imc
before it was declared dead.

Peace,
Brian Szymanski
ski at indymedia.org
bks10 at cornell.edu

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