[CIMC-work] Re: Bobby Meade's IMC? yes

Chris Kaihatsu ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Sat Oct 18 00:18:58 PDT 2003


'k, G., looks like we just might be on our way to an actual group decision
here. Anyone else from CIMC wanna weigh in on this? Mebbe another 'yea' and
no dissents and I'll pass along the collective sentiment to the IMC-Process
list....


Chris




On 10/17/03 9:34 PM, "Garth Liebhaber" <garthliebhaber at care2.com> wrote:

> okay,, we've sunk to new levels of bizarreness- the Bobby Meade Independent
> Media Center?  Yes, I
> back the proposal that Bobby Meade doesn't constitute his own IMC.  Check it
> out
> 
> http://Congo.indymedia.org/
> 
> If there's no opposition, can you Chris K., let that listserve you're on know
> how CIMC weighs in?
> garth.
> 
> 
> 
> Congo.indymedia.org has read "Bobby Meade IMC" for over a year now, and
> during this time not been an open publishing site. For those of you
> unfamiliar with Bobby Meade, he is a prolific writer of... "unusual"
> material. Many IMC's have had persistent annoyances deleting his writings.
> In other words, congo.indymedia.org as it is currently is literally a
> joke. According to micah and zapata, congo never really was an IMC.
> 
> If I was from congo, wanting to start an IMC, and I saw that page, it
> would have a demotivational effect:
> 1) I might think there is a congo IMC, but it is extremely disfunctional
> (as opposed to non-existent, in which case I could start organizing)
> 2) I might think that congo is the butt of some sort of joke among 1st
> world IMCistas.
> 
> Therefore. I propose that we delete congo.indymedia.org from DNS and,
> after archiving and backing up any content on stallman, deleting the files
> used by congo on stallman.
> 
> I am not a liason for any group, so technically I can't propose this (I
> think). So, if someone would be so kind as to talk to their local IMC, get
> consensus, and "sponsor" this proposal, that would rule. At that point, a
> deadline would be set 7 days from the time of this "sponsor"ing email.
> 
> (end of proposal, the below is just an informal note about delisting
> fucked imc's in general)
> 
> We also need a more formal process for delisting dead or dysfunctional (ie
> BeachCities) IMCs. We need to formalize a process for this happening in
> the future: namely by creating a process for declaring IMC's "dead",
> similar to the New-IMC process (for example, it could be pointed out that,
> say, 2 or more of the principles of unity are not met, the group has asked
> to be deleted, nobody has been able to get in touch with the group for
> over 2 months, etc.), and then a set of actions to take on these "dead
> IMC's", such as:
>  a) backing them up & removing them from the cities.inc and dns, and
> their webserver
>  b) providing an accessible archive of content that was posted to the imc
> before it was declared dead.
> 
> Peace,
> Brian Szymanski
> ski at indymedia.org
> bks10 at cornell.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
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