[CIMC-work]
Chicago IMC supports Indymedia Netherlands' proposal for removal
of Climate IMC
Chris Kaihatsu
ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Thu Oct 23 21:21:21 PDT 2003
The Chicago Independent Media Center has consensed in support of Indymedia
Netherlands' proposal to remove the Climate IMC from the cities list.
Chris Kaihatsu
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From: clara <clara at ifrik.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:14:00 +0200
To: imc-process at lists.indymedia.org
Subject: Re: FW: [IMC-Process] PROPOSAL: destruction of
congo.indymedia.org
-- Chicago IMC approval
hoi,
if necessary for the formal process, Indymedia Netherlands as a lisaon
puts forward the proposal that Brian made some days earlier. If not
necessary, we just support it.
We would also propose to take climate of the cities list, as it is
broken for about 9 months, and by now shows an empty page. Some
indidivuals of the former editorial group in the Netherlands support it,
some others did not answer in the last months.
Love and solidarity
Clara
>PROPOSAL:
>destrucion del congo.indymedia.org
>destruction of congo.indymedia.org
>
>[es]
>
>English below.
>
>Congo.indymedia.org ha leido "Bobby Meade IMC" por mas de un anyo, y no
>ha sido un sitio "open publishing" en este tiempo. Bobby Meade es un
>escritor un poco loco norteamericano que publica muchas cosas absurdo
>en IMCs del red indymedia. Trato decir que congo.indymedia.org es
>literalmente una broma. Segun zapata y micah, congo nunca estaba un
>CMI.
>
>Si era del congo, y viera esta pagina, tendria un efecto mal:
>1) es posible que creo que hay un CMI en congo, pero esta muy
>desfuncional, y seria menos probable intentar organizar un imc.
>2) es posible que me ofenden que congo es el extremo de una broma.
>
>Por esto, nos propongo quitar congo.indymedia.org de la red indymedia.
>
>No soy liason de nadie, y tecnicalmente, no puedo proponer esto. Un CMI
>tiene que "patrocine" esta oferta para que ser oficial. En ese punto,
>un plazo seria fijado 7 dias a partir de la epoca de esto email.
>
>Tambien (y esto no es formal), necesitamos un proceso mas formal para
>quitamos IMCs disfuncional. Tengo unas ideas, pero no tengo la energia
>para traducirlos a espanol :( Si habla ingles, leer mas abajo.
>
>Unidad y Lucha,
>Brian Szymanski
>ski at indymedia.org
>bks10 at cornell.edu
>
>
>[en]
>
>Congo.indymedia.org has read "Bobby Meade IMC" for over a year now, and
>during this time not been an open publishing site. For those of you
>unfamiliar with Bobby Meade, he is a prolific writer of... "unusual"
>material. Many IMC's have had persistent annoyances deleting his
>writings. In other words, congo.indymedia.org as it is currently is
>literally a joke. According to micah and zapata, congo never really was
>an IMC.
>
>If I was from congo, wanting to start an IMC, and I saw that page, it
>would have a demotivational effect:
>1) I might think there is a congo IMC, but it is extremely
>disfunctional (as opposed to non-existent, in which case I could start
>organizing)
>2) I might think that congo is the butt of some sort of joke among 1st
>world IMCistas.
>
>Therefore. I propose that we delete congo.indymedia.org from DNS and,
>after archiving and backing up any content on stallman, deleting the
>files used by congo on stallman.
>
>I am not a liason for any group, so technically I can't propose this (I
>think). So, if someone would be so kind as to talk to their local IMC,
>get consensus, and "sponsor" this proposal, that would rule. At that
>point, a deadline would be set 7 days from the time of this
>"sponsor"ing email.
>
>(end of proposal, the below is just an informal note about delisting
>fucked imc's in general)
>
>We also need a more formal process for delisting dead or dysfunctional
>(ie
>BeachCities) IMCs. We need to formalize a process for this happening in
>the future: namely by creating a process for declaring IMC's "dead",
>similar to the New-IMC process (for example, it could be pointed out
that,
>say, 2 or more of the principles of unity are not met, the group has
asked
>to be deleted, nobody has been able to get in touch with the group for
>over 2 months, etc.), and then a set of actions to take on these "dead
>IMC's", such as:
> a) backing them up & removing them from the cities.inc and dns, and
>their webserver
> b) providing an accessible archive of content that was posted to the
imc
>before it was declared dead.
>
>Peace,
>Brian Szymanski
>ski at indymedia.org
>bks10 at cornell.edu
>
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