[New-project] Re: [CIMC-work] Global photo site

[Chris]

Hi Chris

I think it's best if we take this to the imc-photos list
and come back to new-project when we have some answers to
these questions:

 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewProjectPhoto

The imc-photos list is here:

  http://lists.indymedia.org/imc-photos

On Thu 29-Apr-2004 at 06:18:56PM -0500, Chris Kaihatsu
wrote:
> Garth, (CIMC,) Clara, Chris, all,
> 
> I'm glad this global photo site project idea has
> prompted your interest, and hopefully the interest of
> the CIMC Photo collective, as well. 
> 
> It seems only fitting that higher-bandwidth media have
> repositories on par with what is considered a given for
> text-based communication. I would consider the
> implementation of this global photo site to be
> equivalent to what a listserve does for text. 
> 
> One concern, then: Would this mean that photogs
> would/should have to post their photos twice? -- once to
> their local IMC site, and again for the global photo
> site? Could some syndication script be implemented in
> the same manner as it's currently used for
> www.indymedia.org?

Yes, something could be done, most IMC sites do have a
RSS feeds for posts that have images, for example this is
the UK one:

  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/images.rss

However this feed doesn't only contain photo posts,
grapics, images of posters and suchlike are included.

It would be good to get all the image rss feeds and
display them lik the global sites does, but I'm not sure
how we could save people from posting twice.

Personally what I was thinking I would do when this site
is up and running and for example I have taken a few
hundred image on a demo is post a dozen (or more) of the
best ones, without shrinking them first, to the photos
site. The photos site would then have the versions that
would be best for using in print etc. Then I would copy
the scaled versio of the images that the global site would
generate and post a selection of these on my local IMC and
also post a link to the page on the global site.

> I agree that some form of outreach -- at very least some
> announcements -- be rolled into the effort. Would
> postings on global lists be adequate, or should more
> elaborate designs take place, incorporating IMC
> photography?

My only outreach thought so far has been to post to the
other photos lists:

  http://lists.indymedia.org/#Photo

And I agree with the concerns below.

Chris



> Chris Kaihatsu
> (Chicago Indymedia)
> 
> 
> Garth Liebhaber wrote:
> >All,
> >
> > I had an initially negative reaction to the concept of a 
> > global photo site.  i felt the photogroups did not have 
> > enough development at the local level to support it in a 
> > non-hierarchical way.
> > 
> > having checked out the wiki pages, i like the basic idea.  i 
> > think it will serve a great purpose.  i think it will create 
> > space for many more photographers, particularly as we 
> > tend to operate on a more individualist level.
> > 
> > concerns would be that the project does not try to take on 
> > too heavy a role that becomes too centralized by default.  
> > i would even propose that the traditional softwares not be 
> > used, which utilize the 'editor intensive' center panels.  
> > perhaps even a multi-newswire system based on topic or 
> > regions, or something.
> > 
> > i would also like to express concern that outreach is done 
> > so that folks in the imc photo community don't feel 
> > excluded.  so that folks at least know about it, even if they 
> > don't participate too much, it is always disconcerting to 
> > find out that something at the global level which affects 
> > your passion has happened w/o your knowing at all.
> > 
> > I like the lead that is being taken, and would support the 
> > folks who have done this in whatever minimal time I seem 
> > to have left.  note also that i recognize this need as 
> > important and do recognize the phenomena of "too many 
> > cooks spoiling the brew".
> > 
> > solidaritat,
> > garth
> > chicago imc photo person
> > 
> > p.s. despite my flat tone, I am actually very enthusiastic 
> > about this, i think it is a decisively beneficial project for 
> > the media activist/imc community.  put me on the list.