[CIMC-work] Fw: Re: [Imc-finance] Proposal 2004-B Dakar Conference request 7551$

[Chris Kaihatsu]

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- (me), Chris Kaihatsu, 2-3-04





----- Original Message -----
From: "sphinx" <sphinx at indymedia.org>
To: <imc-finance at lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: <imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>; <jaypsand at yahoo.com>;
<joeri at indymedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Imc-finance] Proposal 2004-B Dakar Conference request
7551$


> Hello Jay, Joeri and all in imc-finance! I'm sorry for the lateness. I
think
> the discussion has been fine this far. About the Date Joeri, I think an
earlier
> date could have been better to permit space for the visa process but if
that
> will disrupt imc-finance process then one just have to risk 18 Feb. In
anycase
> one just have to hope all works-out with visa and space in flights.
> Joeri as of altimate dateline, I cannot be absolutely sure becuase the
> Senegalese Consolates(especially those in africa) have not been able to
say
> exactly how long it will take for them to process visas. Thus one is just
> hoping that as of now that should be quick.
> My regards
> Sphinx
>
> Quoting Joeri <joeri at indymedia.org>:
>
> > Correction of the proposal: it is 7551 USD (i made a currency mistake)
> >
> > Joeri wrote:
> >
> > > Posted: 4th of feb '04
> > > discussion period 4-18 feb (but i'll ask sphinx what (s)he thinks
> > > about deadline)
> > > Decision deadline 18th of Feb
> > >
> > > Jay: i guess the process is still the same as about a year ago; and i
> > > agree on the proposal
> > >
> > > Sphinx: what is the ultimate deadline for getting in that money
> > >
> > > the proposal will be send to translationtool for spanish and french in
> > > a minute
> > >
> > > greets
> > > joeri
> > >
> > > Jay wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi imc-finance (and imc-africa by cc),
> > >>
> > >> This is Jay from IMC Philadelphia.  Some of you may know me, others
> > >> may not.  Hello to everyone.
> > >>
> > >> I've recently started to support imc-africa group in its attempt to
> > >> raise some money to support the travel of African delegates to the
> > >> upcoming conference in Senegal.  I haven't been on imc-fiance for a
> > >> while, but I understand Sphinx sent a request for funds.  I also have
> > >> seen Joeri's below reply asking for clarification and expressing some
> > >> concern about the amount of money requested.
> > >>
> > >> I e-mailed imc-africa with the below idea a few days ago and haven't
> > >> heard any dissent.  I don't know the current process on imc-finance
> > >> but I would love for someone who does to help work this into a
> > >> proposal.  Plus, we need to act on this SOON.  The conference is
> > >> scheduled for March 1-14 and I'm pretty sure most delegates will have
> > >> to get visas, or at least make plane reservations as soon as
possible.
> > >>
> > >> Here's the idea.  Right now imc-africa has a great list of delegates
> > >> intending to come from around Africa.  Some IMCs, even forming IMCs,
> > >> are interested in sending more than one, which is great . . . and
> > >> expensive.  I think we all should do our best to get at least one
> > >> person from each IMC to be able to come to Senegal.
> > >>
> > >> What do people on imc-finance think of imc-africa asking formally for
> > >> enough money to get at least one person from each of the interested
> > >> IMC groups to get to the conference?  Then we could have a firm, more
> > >> manageable amount.
> > >>
> > >> That would be, according to Sphinx's estimates:
> > >>
> > >> 1from South Africa  = 877 Euro
> > >> 1 from Ambazonia =   750 Euro
> > >> 1 from Congo =         1200 Euro
> > >> 1 from Angola =        1100  Euro
> > >> 1 from Kenya =          1100 Euro
> > >> 1 from Madiaq =            450 Euro
> > >>
> > >> Total:   5477 Euro
> > >>
> > >> Plus, 533 Euro to help pay for expenses in Senegal.  Total = 6000
Euro.
> > >>
> > >> If imc-finance would release 6000 Euro to pay for the tickets that
> > >> will assure the conference will have representation from at least 6
> > >> African IMCs, plus Senegal.  That will be a great stride forward for
> > >> African indymedia organizing!
> > >>
> > >> As for the fear from imc-finance that imc-africa is asking for too
> > >> much, perhaps imc-africa can pay back imc-finance "33 cents on the
> > >> dollar."  Meaning, if imc-africa independently raises 9,000 Euro
> > >> toward the conference, they'll pay imc-finance back 3000 Euro of what
> > >> they lent.  If they raise 15000 Euro they'll pay back 5000 Euro.  In
> > >> other words, imc-finance will be able to assure some level of success
> > >> at an essential Indymedia conference but at the same time we will all
> > >> make sure imc-finance doesn't have to be afraid imc-africa will drain
> > >> all its money.
> > >>
> > >> How does this sound?
> > >>
> > >> Jay
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At 1/30/2004, Joeri wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> hey,
> > >>>
> > >>> sorry to only reply this late
> > >>>
> > >>> i think it's needed to be more specific about the amount of money; i
> > >>> know it's difficult to give an exact amount as you're still very
> > >>> busy in fundraising, but for us it's even more difficult to set an
> > >>> amount (therefore i didn't set it as a proposal yet)
> > >>>
> > >>> as on new year's day (this is the latest info i received) our bank
> > >>> balance contained $21,679.15, but with still some donations to
> > >>> process (at least $5,654),
> > >>> giving the biggest part of the needed money for the project would
> > >>> have big consequences for imc-finance (altough i think this
> > >>> conference is really important and i think it's very important that
> > >>> we help getting the money together if needed)
> > >>>
> > >>> so i suggest to (if possible) try to get an idea of the amount still
> > >>> needed, so we can put it in a proposal for finance
> > >>>
> > >>> other ideas on this?
> > >>>
> > >>> greets
> > >>> sorry for the delay
> > >>> joeri
>
>
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