[CIMC-work] (regarding editorial policy) Fwd: [imc-us-process] sfeditorial policy request.

Garth Liebhaber garthliebhaber at care2.com
Sat Feb 28 16:54:53 PST 2004


and people have told us we are militant in regards to 
hiding stuff!...
g.



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> From: nessie at sfbg.com
> Date: February 28, 2004 2:14:19 PM CST
> To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based IMCs"  
> <imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [imc-us-process] sf editorial policy request.
> Reply-To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based 
IMCs"  
> <imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>
>
>>  i've been following some of the discussions that
> have migrated onto the UCIMC newswire after folks had 
their posts  
> hidden
>> and one person was banned outright from posting on 
the sf site
>>
>
>
>
> I did that. I do a lot of the moderating around here. I 
should have  
> thrown him out long ago. He's a racist. He spams. He 
lies about it. He  
> abused our newswire. He is not welcome.
>
> I can't for the life of me understand why *any* IMC 
welcomes someone  
> who has abused any IMC. Is not an injury to one an 
injury to all? Why  
> is this man permitted to post at UC-IMC? If someone 
abused UC-IMC, and  
> was banned, SF-IMC would not permit him to post. For 
Indymedia to hold  
> together as a global network, solidarity is essential. No 
one who  
> abuses any IMC should be permitted to post on any 
IMC.
>
> Anyone who abuses our newswire by spamming is 
banned. Period. End of  
> story. No appeal. We also forbid any form of enemy 
propaganda, be it  
> sexist, racist, homophobic, pro-war, pro-exploitation, 
pro-nuclear,  
> anti-environmental, anti-labor, or anything like it. 
Trolls are not  
> welcome on SF-IMC. Our site exists for the benefit of 
our friends, our  
> allies and our potential friends and allies. We have 
learned from  
> experience and from feedback that if they have to wade 
through troll  
> shit to read the news and talk to each other, they wont 
use the site.
>
> We also hide duplicate posts, reposts from enemy 
websites, and  
> anything containing a live link to an enemy website. 
Gibberish,  
> personal ads, porn, the ravings of nut cases, and 
forgeries are also  
> forbidden.
>
> All these things are regular problems, especially spam 
and forgeries.  
> We are under near constant attack by enemies from 
across the political  
> spectrum, including Zionists, Nazis, and especially 
grassroots  
> rightwingers, who use their own websites to organize 
coordinated  
> attacks. The most egregious of these are Free Republic, 
KOBEHQ,  
> Protestwarrior, and a guy who calls himself 
SmashTheLeft.
>
> These people not only attempt to disrupt Indymedia and 
to drown our  
> signal in noise, they have also threatened our lives, 
mine in  
> particular. I take it as a compliment, but I also take 
prudent  
> precautions. I disguise my identity, appearance and 
location, live  
> with a big dog and own guns. I refuse to end up like 
Alan Berg.
>
> These people are not always just a lot of hot air. Last 
year, Freepers  
> actively promoted violence against protesters. 
Specifically, they  
> encouraged people to run down protesters with their 
cars. This  
> actually happened at least six times, in cities as 
dispersed as SF,  
> Vancouver and Copenhagan. Nobody died, but at least 
one guy went to  
> the hospital with a broken leg. As a guy who, at various 
times, has  
> had both legs broken on highway crashes, I know 
exactly how he felt.  
> No, I will not allow the miscreants who encourage 
people to do this to  
> protesters to use SF-IMC as a soapbox.
>
> During this period, STL also published a map showing 
how to find our  
> office, and encouraged people to go there, hurt us and 
break things.  
> It didn't happen, in part because we posted  guards and 
only let  
> people into the building who we knew.
>
> This is what we're up against.
>
> Then there's COINTELPRO, which has not gone away, 
not even a little.
>
> See:
>
> http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/1666652.php
>
>
> These are the kind of people we have for enemies. No, 
we will not  
> permit ourselves to be defeated by them. There is too 
much at stake.
>
> To judge from the amount of traffic our site attracts, 
our editorial  
> policy has been, and continues to be, an overwhelming 
success. We have  
> no intention of altering it. Au contrair, we strongly 
recommend its  
> emulation.
>
> The best way to understand how our editorial policy 
works, is to look  
> at what we hide. Note the volume.
>
> Click here:
>
> http://www.sfimc.net/news/? 
> 
keyword=&author=&comments=yes&display=f&year=&m
onth=&day=&medium=&categ 
> ory=0&sort=&limit=200
>
>
> As for Gehrig himself, see this:
>
> http://www.sfimc.net/news/? 
> 
keyword=Gehrig&author=&comments=yes&display=f&yea
r=&month=&day=&medium= 
> &category=0&sort=&limit=200
>
>
> For more about me, personally, click here:
>
> http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/
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