[CIMC-work] Fw: [imc-us-process]SFIMC's Proposal for ending this conflict

[Chris Kaihatsu]

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----- Original Message -----
From: <ibm at linefeed.org>
To: <sfbay at indymedia.org>; <imc-us-process at indymedia.org>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: [imc-us-process]SFIMC's Proposal for ending this conflict


> To all SFBAY IMC & imc-us-process members,
>
> What follows are the options that we, the San Francisco Indymedia
> collective (sf.indymedia.org), see as being the realistic paths toward
> finishing this conflict once and for all.
>
> Rather than continuing the trend of posting our collective views on any
> newswire or global/national mailing list we can, we decided as a group
> that this collective statement would best serve SF Indymedia, SFBAY
> Indymedia and Indymedias around the world.
>
> The state of things now is that both sides have outstanding requirements
> they want completed by the other side and are listed below. We look
> forward to moving forward in good faith and anticipate that actions by
> others will also be made in that spirit.
>
> **Timeframe**
> Given the urgency of the situation, we are putting the deadline of
> Saturday, January 17th, 11am PST, which allows SFBAY IMC to properly
> address the proposal at their meeting this week.
>
> These are the three options as we see them, with the first being the one
> we strongly prefer:
>
> [#1]
> 1. Press passes: SFBAY IMC members turn the press passes over to us
>    directly, not the SF Police Department, as we need a guarantee from
>    someone other than SFBAY IMC that they not be used while our
>    organization is potentially responsible.
>
>    A member of SFIMC will meet a member of SFBAY IMC in person to
>    retrieve the press passes, provide proof to both collectives that
>    all are accounted for, and give a written receipt for the passes.
>
> 2. Letter to global network: SFBAY IMC sends a letter to the global
>    network acknowledging that bringing this conflict beyond the local
>    level, which is what the mediation sought to avoid, was a gross
>    violation of the mediation agreement.
>
>    So as to be assured the letter stay simple, direct, and free of
>    interpretations of contentious issues, SFIMC will review the
>    letter before it's sent to the global network.
>
> 3. Talking to media: SFBAY IMC members shall refrain from speaking with
>    the corporate media about the details of this split or any internal
>    business from when we were one group.
>
>    The interviews that were already given to a reporter from the East
>    Bay Express cannot be taken back, but in the future this type of
>    action will not be taken.
>
> 4. Money: A still-disputed issue from the mediation is that of money.
>    Both collectives recieved half of the existing funds, with SFBAY
>    keeping all of an existing slush fund. Negotiations over the price
>    of t-shirts and stickers was supposed to happen, but a reasonable price
>    is highly contested. SFIMC no longer has an interest in negotiating
>    anything with SFBAY, and feels it would only result in further conflict
>    and diversion. As such, there shall be no negotiations over the price,
>    with the money issue being considered settled.
>
> 5. SFBAY will re-affirm their commitment to the mediation agreement by
>    agreeing to stop all actions intent upon revoking our IMC's status in
>    global IMC, and stop attacks against us on mailing lists and IMC
>    sites.
>
> 6. Within 7 days of acceptance of this option/proposal by SFBAY, SFIMC
>    shall provide a list of URLs from lists.indymedia.org which contain
>    private information about individuals in our group to be removed
>    from the global lists archive and Google.
>
> 7. SFIMC work spaces: Just as SFIMC members won't participate in work
>    spaces (lists, irc, meetings, etc.) of SFBAY IMC members, the latter
>    will commit to not entering or attempting to disrupt our work spaces
>    (irc channels like #sf or #sfkids, our mailing lists, our meetings,
etc).
>
> 8. Blurb: Any decision about a blurb that links to SFBAY IMC will be
>    left up to SFIMC. Asking us to put up an openly fraudulent "we're
>    expanding" blurb after the intense amount of negative propaganda
>    spread by SFBAY is too much. It is SFIMC's decision about how to
>    handle the negative propaganda and its impact on our ability to
>    work within the local community.
>
> 9. Indybay.org: Upon SFBAY's official acceptance of the above 8
>    conditions, the indybay.org domain name ownership will be placed
>    in escrow with a trusted third party within global Indymedia.
>
> 10. Escrow conditions: The domain name will remain in escrow for
>     a three month period. Conditions 1-9 must be met through this
>     three month period. At the end of the three month period, the
>     domain will be transferred to the SFBAY group by the trusted
>     third party. The imc-us-process list shall act as final arbiter
>     of this process.
>
> [#2]
>
> SFIMC has outstanding complaints against SFBAY IMC, SFBAY IMC has
> outstanding complaints against SFIMC. We end all negotiations
> immediately. Both groups end arguing on the global lists, leave with
> whatever assets they have from the other group, and proceed to work on
> our respective IMC sites without further attacks against the other.
>
> [#3]
>
> We continue to fight on the global lists, on IMC newswires, and in front
> of a global audience. To date, SFIMC has not made public any of the
> problems we have with SFBAY, its members or its process. Option #3 is
> that we enter into serious global argumentation to "resolve this
> through global," following SFBAY's lead. However, SFIMC will insist
> that we address all issues of the situation in SF. This will take
> months, it will make most of us relive the horrors of the past few
> months that we want to put behind us, and will put an enormous strain
> on Indymedia as a whole. It will involve more dirty laundry and unheard
> dirty laundry about SFBAY IMC  It will probably destroy Indymedia in
> the Bay Area. We recognize that SFBAY is heading full-on down this
> path, and we again express disappointment and regret that they are
> choosing to do so. We hope this proposal diverts their path.
>
> To sum up, we see option #1 as the most realistic way out of this
> quagmire, with the second and third options only guaranteeing months
> more of fighting and conflict on what is now a global level.
>
> SFIMC strongly urges SFBAY IMC members, as well as imc-us-process and
> the rest of the global network, to proceed with the interests of all in
> mind, pausing to assess which of the above options will further the
> goals of Indymedia in the Bay Area and around the world. We
> wholeheartedly believe the first will do just that.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -Ian, on behalf of San Franisco Indymedia
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