[CIMC-work] Need some input on US-IMC

[Garth Liebhaber]

in my oversight, i left a few things out of that solicitation for input.  it's become something of a non-issue anyway.  but I can 
give an update at sunday's meeting.

garth

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From: "Chris Kaihatsu" <ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com>
Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:24:07 -0600
To: <imc-chicago-working at lists.indymedia.org>
Subject: Re: [CIMC-work] Need some input on US-IMC


> Everything is dependent on something.  I don't see this as a problem.
> People have jobs -- and if their job is funded by a Soros grant, is
> that really so bad?  I think it's unfair to blackball people who are
> probably doing good work, because you don't like their employer.


Absolutely -- very well said, Ian -- I agree entirely. One always has to
look at the fine print and look for any strings attached, as with any
financial transaction. But we/anyone shouldn't just have a blanket policy of
turning down free money that can be used for constructive purposes. So I'd
say the Soros grant is certainly worthy of IMC consideration and discussion,
and possibly approval.

If there is to be a us.indymedia.org site of syndicated stories, the process
of creating it should be very open and not ad-hoc like the very first batch
of IMC local sites.... CIMC participants have expressed objections about the
whole concept of a US-centric (that is, Anglo-oriented) site, instead of
jump-starting (or waiting) for Global South regional sites to start first.


Chris



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More and more, the U.S. seems to resemble the former U.S.S.R., except that
instead of people pretending to work and the rulers pretending to pay them,
our rulers are pretending to scare us and we are pretending to be scared.

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 From: "Ian Bicking" <ianb at colorstudy.com>
To: "Garth Liebhaber" <garthliebhaber at care2.com>
Cc: <imc-chicago-working at lists.indymedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CIMC-work] Need some input on US-IMC


> On Jan 19, 2004, at 10:44 PM, Garth Liebhaber wrote:
> > hey gang,  need some input on this issue with us-imc.  the exchange
> > below sums up the kernal of what is at stake.  i am of
> > the opinion that the indymedia projects should not be dependent upon
> > tech groups who are in turn dependent upon
> > funding from foundations, much less Soros.
>
> Everything is dependent on something.  I don't see this as a problem.
> People have jobs -- and if their job is funded by a Soros grant, is
> that really so bad?  I think it's unfair to blackball people who are
> probably doing good work, because you don't like their employer.
>
> However, I don't know what else they are asking for.  Do the Acorn
> people want a little note on the site, kind of like we have at the
> bottom left of our site?  That's not too big a deal, though I would
> hope that they don't see themselves as heros just because they set some
> software up -- it's the long-term commitment of keeping the software up
> that's the difficult part.  But if that's what they are offering, then
> I see no problem at all.
>
> There's recently been a spurt of people volunteering to do tech on the
> imc-tech mailing list.  I don't know if that matters particularly or
> not -- offers aren't the same as actual work, but then hopefully some
> of those people will become acclimated and productive.  Anyway, we're
> not devoid of tech, but again it's the long-term commitment that's
> really valuable.
>
>
> Now, maybe there's some impression that Acorn and the Community
> Wireless people are using US-IMC for their own dastardly intentions to
> attain more grant money.  I don't know.  I don't see any of that from
> the email you copied, but then I wouldn't expect to from the context.
>
>    Ian
>
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