Fw: Re: [CIMC-work] oh boy.   read this one.

Chris Kaihatsu ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Tue Jun 22 21:48:25 PDT 2004


Garth, all,

It's a good point to say that Indymedia people should not be paid for
their efforts -- I agree with it.

And, as usual, there is a lack of a global collective decision-making
structure for the Indymedia network, so I'm not surprised if the
Indymedia Newsreal gets a patchy response.

(I consider all of the content of your email, below, Garth, to be
CIMC-related, so that's why I'm forwarding it to the list in this
email.)


Chris K.





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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Garth Liebhaber" <garthliebhaber at care2.com>
>To: <ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com>
>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:03 AM
>Subject: Re: Re: [CIMC-work] oh boy.  read this one.
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>> Chris,
>>
>> I think that funding can be a tough issue.  Don't know if folks in our
>collective would have the time to put to following this
>> list, we'll see if they do.  I do think that we all have concern one way
>or another.
>>
>> I'm of the view that Indymedia work shouldn't be paid, particularly in the
>United States.  I understand about funding
>> projects, but the paying of people for time quickly brings us into issues
>of hierarchy.  Of course everything is not black and
>> white, and there is a spectrum to it.  I think that $30,000 is a lot of
>money for this summer tour.  $5,000 to pay a contracted
>> videographer?  Did Chicago videographers get a fair chance to apply?
>>
>> hmmm,
>> I'm careful not to get sucked into a flame war, I am curious to see the
>outcome.  Will the tour proceed or not, as proposed?
>> I think it will be most interesting to see the actual local response to
>the tour.
>>
>> ciao,
>> garth
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for passing this along, Garth -- I'm on the US-Process list and
>> reading this thread as it developed got me to thinking and
>> *third*-guessing myself that maybe CIMCers may want to be on this list
>> as well....
>>
>> The thing that comes to mind is that, based on the volunteer principle,
>> perhaps some people may _volunteer_ to donate funds to offset direct
>> costs incurred in specific IMC projects...? Perhaps "micro-funding", on
>> a per-project basis...? (Kinda like temp work, but with much more
>> meaning and significance...!)
>>
>>
>> Chris K.
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