[CIMC-work] (f.y.i.) personal-political Fwd: [imc-us-process] Stop the spam, nessie??

[Chris Kaihatsu]

Peter, CIMC, all,

My addition to the personal-political framework issue that Peter raises, below, is that it is essentially dialectical, complex, or a gray area. In general, the relationship between the personal and the political is a complex dynamic, with clear definitions of "personal" and "political" existing only at the extremes. 

One example of a distinctly personal issue, meaning that it has little or negligible political meaning, would be what your favorite color is. To generalize, the best class (or category) of subjects with distinctly personal relevance would be pleasures. Of course these can encroach toward the opposite, political, pole, depending on how the practice of whatever pleasure impacts other people and society as a whole. 

An example of a clearly political -- that is, objective (potentially verifiable by anyone/many) -- issue would be land, especially in the present day. If any two people have interests in use of a particular parcel of land, potentially for any given period of time in common, then a public-policy issue would necessarily arise. (We're all limited to the surface of this planet....)

In between these two poles is an infinite variety of examples, each with varying parameters, and thus spanning varying distances within the two poles.


Chris





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----- Begin forwarded message -----
From: Peter Maiden <pmaiden at pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:02:21 -0800 (PST)
To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based IMCs" <imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>
Subject: [imc-us-process] Stop the spam, nessie??
Reply-To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based IMCs" <imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>

--- nessie at sfbg.com wrote:

>  (4.) Racist trolls and spammers are one issue. The
>  SFBay-IMC/SF-IMC 
>  issue is another issue. Please don't confuse them.
>  One effects two 
>  locals. The other effects all of us.

Hi,

I realize we're going to have to slow down our
submissions to this list, as per the announcement
earlier this evening. However I am one of the 
representatives from SF Bay IMC to the possible
arbitration, and I want to make a brief but I believe
important statement.

Our split was not really about political differences
or how the site was run.  It was over personal issues.
 In the 70s we said "the personal is political."  It
is, but the personal is also a realm where things have
to be understood on their own terms.  I have the
feeling many IMCs have faced these same types of
issues with dismay.  We hope we can be a case where
something is learned in order to help start a journey
down a new road.

Peter
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