[CIMC-work] a half-week's worth of positions...
Chris Kaihatsu
ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com
Wed Mar 17 18:07:35 PST 2004
Garth,
I'm glad we're able to talk this through. On the liaison-role thing, would
it be better for you if I were to put my "(concise subject line)" before
every global post I send along? You seem to have difficulties with long (and
not-very-descriptive) subject lines from global messages. I am always open
to changing my habits/processes, as long as it doesn't require additional,
time-consuming work.
Chris K.
On 3/17/04 5:51 PM, "Garth Liebhaber" <garthliebhaber at care2.com> wrote:
> Chris K., all,
>
> a. Chris, I didn't realize you had a request for issues to be
> in separate emails. to voice personally, i found your
> below post to be incredibly useful and very concise.
>
> b. to jump into another response, with liason role, is that
> this is what i've been *asking* for. put inversely, I've been
> frustrated to read forwards that don't introduce a relevant
> context of what's been going on in the discussion, why it
> matters, the direction it's going in, etc. type stuff. When I
> said we should discuss things to find something workable.
> I acknowledge that I'm the only person complaining, I also
> wanted to make that gesture in order to defer to other's
> thoughts/feelings. not to create a mob effect, but to be
> constructive, perhaps there's changes i can make in my
> own process...
>
> as to apologies, that quickly touches upon the
> philosophical concept of rightous indignation. perhaps
> others are effective with it, but from what i've seen lately,
> it's been an escalation of conflict. not good. i feel a
> failing with that lately in my cooption of it. so, lately i
> give an email a few minutes before i respond to it. so, let
> me apologise 100% and pledge to try working in a more
> peaceable manner.
>
> c. i will also make it a point to sign my emails to other
> lists that i am "speaking as an individual who is in
> communication with his collective". I don't expect to be
> communicating too much with us-process. i'm a little
> tired.
>
> ciao,
> garth
>
>
> Okay, everyone, I know I asked for topics
> to be in separate emails, but here
> I go violating my own request. I'm catching up. Hope it's
> not too
> bothersome....
>
>
> - Individual editorial passwords are okay by me.
>
> - I'll make sure to always sign off as "Chris K." and to
> note that I am only
> representing myself if I post non-CIMC-consensed emails
> to global lists.
>
> - I've been in favor of formalization, within the
> boundaries of
> CIMC-participant-based trust, since the beginning. I
> support Chris G.'s
> "admin guide" suggestion, and Garth's call for minimal
> meeting attendance,
> and Emily's call for a CIMC institutional history and
> introductory folder.
>
> - I do not support the idea of having a moderated queue
> -- that is, where at
> least one CIMC editor would have to look at and approve
> a submitted post
> before it is listed on the newswire. It is preferable to have
> enough
> volunteers to be able to have 24/7 monitoring of the
> newswire so that posts
> may be quickly hidden if they violate our editorial policy.
>
> - I support Chris G.'s idea of having volunteers as
> "auxiliary admins," if
> they wish to do so.
>
> - Garth, I accept your apology regarding my role as
> liaison, but I can't
> help but wonder if it isn't 100%. You follow it up by
> saying we can "talk
> about [my] role and how we can make it work." This
> implies that you have
> some problems with the way I do my liaison work for this
> CIMC list. If you
> have something to say, say it. Allow me to address your
> specific concerns.
>
> - Rita, your copy to volunteers looks very good -- it's
> clean, informative,
> and succinct.
>
> - I will be addressing Tom W.'s suggested group-editorial
> model and others'
> comments on it, soon.
>
> - And, I will be addressing other CIMCers' expressed
> issues, soon.
>
>
> Chris K.
>
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