[CIMC-work] Re: [Imc-chicago-video] block and counterproposal regarding Jon'sproposal

[nscchicago]

Tom Baker here. I think we are establishing
a workable. We are working through
clarifications of procedures.

I think we have been astronomical from
where we started production wise. We are
also making good steps in understanding
ourselves.

I think we are right now a lot of internally
focused and have not yet set up systems
for training and growth.

I think a regular slot on CAN is a step
a head for us, that we be as regular as
we can go.

I think OUTREACH is critical.
I would be point on outreach strategy
consequent consense on what it is






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Yun" <mayday at riseup.net>
To: "Chicago Indymedia " <imc-chicago-working at lists.indymedia.org>; "Chicago
Independent Television " <imc-chicago-video at lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: <ginsuaste at associationhouse.org>; <jongroot at aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: [Imc-chicago-video] block and counterproposal regarding
Jon'sproposal


> Hello, collective,
>
> most of you are aware of the block that I raised regarding a proposal by
> Jon Groot to request a regular time slot from CAN-TV.  I wish to take this
> opportunity to do the following: 1) elaborate further upon exactly what my
> block is 2) offer a counter-proposal 3) solicit input from the larger
> collective.
>
> As it stands now, this issue is coming to a head with Jon actively seeking
> a way to override my block; which I want to point out, is reasonable for
> him to do.
>
> 1.  Elaboration of my block.  My block specifically is to the timing of
> requesting a regular time slot from CAN-TV.  I would like to see this
> *delayed* until a couple of things happen.  (Refer to my counter-proposal
> to for an elaboration of what those things are.)  My basic point is that
> video is not quite ready as a group to pursue a regular time slot at
> CAN-TV, one of the reasons being that if we are locked into a regular time
> slot at CAN-TV the consequences of being behind schedule are much more
> dire than how we currently exist.  Namely, if we as "Chicago Independent
> Television" miss a deadline we are banned as "Chicago Independent
> Television" from ever having a regular time slot on CAN-TV.
>
> 2.  Counterproposal.
>      First, I would like to suggest that Jon delay his attempt to override
> my block until after Alloy's BBQ so that the video collective has had
> an opportunity to consense on our decision-making process and how
> such overrides are to take place.  I hope the rationale for such a
> delay is self-evident.  In fact once the video collective has
> consensed on decision-making process that will erase one of the
> reasons for my block.  I must point out this would require all
> interested parties to attend Alloy's BBQ or else for us to commit to
> some other time to all meet and hash out our decision-making process.
>      Second, I would like to suggest that the video collective consense on
> a common mission statement.  The rationale for this is that working
> towards a regular time slot will require us to be more efficient,
> which to my thinking means we need to agree on our basic goals.
> Having agreed on a mission statement will also provide a proper
> context for blocks and overrides insofar as they have to be framed in
> terms of our mission statement.
>      Third, we need to reprioritize.  Right now, video collective is being
> consumed by a debate about our interface with CAN-TV, which is just
> one form of distribution amongst many other including internet,
> workshops, screenings, and DVD sales.  The discussion about a TV slot
> yesterday took up the majority of our meeting time.  As a video
> collective, that's simply too much time to spend on that one form of
> distribution.  We need to devote more time to our internet
> distribution efforts, workshops, DVD distribution, screenings, and
> general outreach.  We need a diversity of distributions and
> interfaces with the public.  This will allow for more diversity
> within our collective.
>      Fourth, I would propose that we agree on a more respectful tone for
> our interactions in a collective.  Frankly, there was a lot of
> scolding going on last night as if we were all little children that
> had misbehaved.  That has to stop immediately.
>
> 3.  Input from general collective.  This is the most difficult challenge I
> think we have to deal with as video collective.  Any input the whole
> collective would have would be appreciated.
>
> 4.  sort of notes from last night.  Okay, so there was no official
> notetaker last night.  Here's what I remember happening.
>
> In attendance: Chris Bravo, Jon Groot, Gisela Insuaste, Andrew McAvinchey,
> Jessica P
>
> First we discussed Episode 5 for about forty five minutes.  There was a
> great deal of confusion and consternation about whether we were supposed
> to have screened Episode 5 at the meeting.  Concerns were raised about not
> being able to view the Episode before it was submitted to CAN-TV.
>      We segued into a discussion about the pursuing a regular time slot
> (probably another forty-five minutes).  This naturally led into a
> discussion about my block and the rationale for it and how to
> override it.  There was some confusion about what a consensus was,
> what a block was, and how to override a block.  The point was raised
> that at one of video's earliest meetings, we had agreed about a 3/4
> majority overrule of a block once all efforts had been made to meet
> the concerns raised in the block.  The importance of Alloy's BBQ for
> discussing these issues was raised.
>      Earlier and later in the meeting we also heard from Gisela, who was
> new to the collective, expressing a desire for Indymedia to do a
> workshop with the youth at Asoociation House.
>      There was a brief recap of the May Day Party.
>      There was some discussion of the spine, specifically pertaining to
> Chris and Andrew's work on creating titles.
>
> paz,
> t
> y
>
>
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