[CIMC-work] (unhidden hate posts at Vancouver IMC) Fw: [IMC-Process] Hello

[Chris Kaihatsu]

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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [IMC-Process] Hello


> >  >Is this a rhetorical question, or a real case?? If it is a real
> >situation, please provide links.
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> Since I wrote  that this morning, moral persuasion and peer pressure 
> seem to have convinced Van-IMC to remove some, though not all, of the 
> rape glorification comments from this thread:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/131515_comment.php
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> On the other hand, this advertisement for the National Alliance is 
> still up, and still going strong:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/132517_comment.php
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> They also condone Holocaust denial:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128847_comment.php
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> Glorification of ecocide:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128987_comment.php
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> Celebration of Rachel Corrie's death, repost of Horowitz spew:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128713_comment.php
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> Warmongering:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128990_comment.php
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> Softcore porn, gibberish, spam, racism, misogynist slurs:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/96152_comment.php
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> Homophobic slur:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/03/35426_comment.php#129188
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> Disniformation (title says one thing, article says another):
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128870_comment.php
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> War mongering, racism:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/128784_comment.php
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> Support for child abuse:
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/129047_comment.php#129143
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> Repost from anti-Semitic website "La Voz de Aztlan":
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/129202_comment.php
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> Anti-Semitic website "fortunecity.com/911/" returns the favor by 
> linking to Vancouver-IMC
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> http://members.fortunecity.com/911/
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> Commercial advertisement
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/129582_comment.php
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> Promotes right wing hate site
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/129304_comment.php
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> War mongering
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> http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/129583_comment.php
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> There's more, a lot more, but you get the idea. It is nothing short 
> of appalling that Indymedia's name and reputation would be used to 
> promote this filth.
> 
> The only way that Indymedia can accomplish it's mission is if it can 
> be taken seriously as a news source.  It must be credible. And we 
> IMCistas must be credible, not just as journalists, but as activists.
> 
> This can only happen if we institute better quality control. We need 
> not only to fact check, so that disinformation is not distributed 
> under Indymedia's name, but also purge our sites of all enemy 
> propaganda. When IMC locals allow Indymedia's name and reputation to 
> be used to advertise Nazism, glorify rape, preach war, defend 
> colonialism, excuse exploitation, etc., it hurts us all. It 
> discredits all Indymedia and every IMCista, and directly counteracts 
> all the good that we could otherwise accomplish.
> 
> What are we going to do about it? Are we going to allow a few people 
> to soil Indymedia's reputation, and ruin all our work, or are we 
> going to act, and soon, before it's too late?
> 
> Personally, I prefer peer pressure and moral persuasion, but if that 
> doesn't work, we're are going to have to do something  else. I don't 
> know what, but it has to to be something loud and in public. In 
> journalism, credibility is everything. It is absolutely imperative 
> that we protect Indymedia's reputation. If we allow it to be 
> dishonored, we negate all the trust we we have so painstakingly built 
> up since Seattle.
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