[CIMC-work] (UCIMC is Indymedia's fiscalsponsor)Fwd:[IMC-Process] DNS:

[Chris Kaihatsu]

Garth, Don, CIMC,

Yeah, it's undeniable that UC-IMC has exhibited a distinct pattern of
hosting formal roles. On the legal mailing address issue, however,
Sascha has said that he will wait for the larger IMC network to make a
decision. See:

>Just let me know how things are decided.
>
>--Sascha
lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-chicago-working/2004-May/003374.html


I would characterize this issue, as usual, as being one of activity: If
a larger network process of decision-making is needed, then it must be
done, or else formal roles and unrepresentative actions may be taken
by Sascha (or anyone) simply based on initiative.

While I appreciate Don's input, I would like to see some documentation
of Don's allegations of Sascha's "corporate mentality" -- a serious
characterization -- and his alleged "concentration" of "power." Simply
holding a formal role does not necessarily confer greater power and/or
abuse of power.

I appreciate Garth's stance on the "IMC-book" issue -- I'll address it
in a separate email.


Chris K.


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donald goldhamer wrote:
>I think that UC-IMC would be a bad choice for indymedia.com's registered
>address, for several reasons:
>
> 1. UC-IMC seems to be drifting (have drifted) toward a corporate mentality
>    which does NOT reflect the nature of IMC.
> 2. concentration of power (financial AND legal in one location!) is a great
>    temptation to abuse.  Was the process around "the book" an example of
>    this? 
>
>--Don
>
>>>Chris, what do you think about making a request that Indymedia.org be
>>>registered to another IMC's address in order to diversify our structure?
>>>I don't think there should be any objections to this.
>>>garth
>
>>Garth, all,
>
>>It's an interesting point -- you're not the only one who's expressed
>>reservations about the UC-IMC -- Chris G. has, too, and ferry Ben, here:
>
>>>[IMC-Process] answer to sascha
>>>ferry Ben la_toyax at yahoo.com 
>>>Thu Apr 29 15:55:29 PDT 2004 
>>>lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-April/005688.html
>
>>I'm certainly open, anytime, to discussing any IMC-related issue, and
>>this is a serious suggestion. 
>
>>Off the top of my head it seems like it should just be a procedural
>>issue of first specifying an alternative, then raising global support
>>for it on IMC-Process.
>
>>I can't say that I have a definite position on this issue myself, but
>>I'd appreciate additional thoughtful input.
>
>>Chris K.
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>To: s banerian <banerian at u.washington.edu>,Micah Anderson
>>   <micah at indymedia.org>
>>Cc: dns at indymedia.org, imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org,
>>   imc-process at lists.indymedia.org, imc-legal at lists.indymedia.org
>>Subject: [IMC-Process] DNS:
>> From: Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org>
>>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:14:37 -0500 (CDT)
>
>>Hi Micah (et al.),
>
>>I would suggest using the Urbana-Champaign IMC's address since the UCIMC
>>is Indymedia's Fiscal Sponsor:
>>
>>Urbana-Champaign IMC
>>218 West Main Street
>>Suite 110
>>Urbana, IL 61801
>>USA
>>
>>--Sascha Meinrath
>>Urbana-Champaign IMC
>>-- 
>>Sascha Meinrath
>>Project Manager & President      *      Project Manager
>>Acorn Active Media Foundation   ***     Eggplant Active Media
>>www.acornactivemedia.com         *      www.eggplantmedia.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:34:50 -0500
>> From: Micah Anderson <micah at indymedia.org>
>>To: s banerian <banerian at u.washington.edu>
>>Cc: dns at indymedia.org, imc-communication at lists.indymedia.org,
>>imc-process at lists.indymedia.org, imc-legal at lists.indymedia.org
>>Subject: [IMC-Process] Re: [Dns] record update
>
>>This is a good question...
>>
>>I think this probably should be taken up with imc-legal and
>>imc-process/communication? Legal because DMCA and other legal notices
>>generally go to the contact addresses listed for a domain, and process
>>to figure out where they go?
>>
>>For the process/legal/communications folks... the domain indymedia.org
>>has a registered contact address which lists the seattle IMC's
>>address. This address does not exist anymore, and we need to come up
>>with another address that is valid as a contact address so that we can
>>keep the domain and so legal issues/contact issues can be properly
>>handled.
>>
>>micah
>>
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