[CIMC-work] allegations of censorship

Fri May 14 12:34:38 PDT 2004

Sam, all,

To clarify, the post you've referenced is not a part of the Chicago IMC
site -- rather, it was posted to the indymedia.org global newswire, and
subsequently hidden, apparently. You may want to refer to the
www-newswire working group list as your next step.

lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/www-newswire/

Thanks again.

Chris K.

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sam rossiter wrote:
>thats fine i understand that- but WHY was this fairly
>innocuous article 'hidden'
>
>sam
>
>--- Chris Kaihatsu <ckaihatsu at myrealbox.com> wrote:
>> Sam, Don, all,
>> 
>> I searched for the specified URL at Google, and came
>> up with the page,
>> which is reproduced below, except for a little
>> photoillustration of the
>> guy-with-his-head-up-his-own-ass. The page didn't
>> come up for me when I
>> only used the URL itself.
>> 
>> The Chicago Independent Media Center does not
>> delete, or purge, any
>> posts. At worst, any one of our authorized editors
>> has the means to hide
>> articles which are deemed to be in violation of our
>> site's editorial
>> policy guidelines. Hidden articles can still be
>> viewed by the public by
>> clicking on the link at the bottom of the right-hand
>> column.
>> 
>> Thanks for your concern, and for using our site!
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Kaihatsu, volunteer
>> Chicago Independent Media Center
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> donald goldhamer wrote:
>> >1. I can find no record of this article, hidden,
>> deleted, or otherwise on our
>> >   site.  Does anyone know anything about it.
>> >
>> >2. Should we attempt to straighten this out?
>> >
>> >--Don
>>
>>==============================================================================
>> >
>> >Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
>> >From: sam rossiter <ozzysamuk at yahoo.com>
>> >To: imc-chicago at indymedia.org
>> >Subject: [Imc-chicago] please rebut these
>> allegations
>> >
>> >Hi Chicago
>> >
>> >I know it's tiresome but someone has been throwing
>> accusations of
>> >'censorship' around on the global newswire
>> > 
>>
>http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2004/05/802959.shtml
>> >
>> >Apparently you deleted the following post, It
>> doesnt seem to break any
>> >guidelines to me...  was it's deletion a mistake?
>> >
>> >I think it would be good if one of you could answer
>> the allegation on the
>> >newswire, just to clear it up.
>> >
>> >Cheers Sam 
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >President George Bush is now declaring that he's
>> terribly "shocked and
>> >disturbed" over the photo "evidence" of the torture
>> and murder of Iraqi
>> >prisoners by their U.S.Marine captors.
>> >
>> >But how can President Bush be shocked and disturbed
>> by the torture and
>> >murder of (*innocent until proven guilty!) Iraqis
>> when President Bush is
>> >actively and willingly involved in a conspiracy
>> with Ariel Sharon and the
>> >Israeli Govt. to abuse;torture and murder another
>> group of Middle East
>> >Arabs,namely the Palestinians!
>> >
>> >Ariel Sharon is a documented "War Criminal" and
>> "Mass Murdered" - President
>> >Bush knows this only too well,as he also knows the
>> history of Sharon's
>> >"Secret Police" the Mossad and their ongoing
>> genocidal program of illegal
>> >arrests,torture and murder against the
>> Palestinians. Yet even knowing all
>> >these grisly facts, President Bush recently invited
>> the infamous Ariel
>> >Sharon to the White House and gave him the
>> U.S.Govt.'s Red Carpet VIP
>> >treatment!
>> >
>> >President Bush also gave Sharon the U.S.Govt.s full
>> support (financially &
>> >militarily) to continue the Israeli Govt.s
>> genocidal assault on the
>> >indigenous Palestinians - which means more illegal
>> arrests, more torture
>> >and more murders and more military assaults on
>> Palestinian villages and
>> >refugee camps - using (U.S.Tax-Payer supplied)
>> tanks;helicopter gun-ships
>> >and jet fightrers to achieve Sharon and the
>> Israeli's Govt's. greedy and
>> >evil objective.
>> >
>> >So for President Bush to say that he's terribly
>> "shocked and disturbed" by
>> >the torture and murders that his US Marines carried
>> out in Fallujah,when at
>> >the same time he's helping Sahron and the Israeli
>> Govt. commit the same and
>> >worse "atrocities" against the Palestinians, is
>> about as deep and genuine
>> >as Bush's avowed and much hyped Christianity.
>> >
>> >k.hawley
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Imc-chicago-working mailing list
>> >Imc-chicago-working at lists.indymedia.org
>>
>>http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-chicago-working
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2004/05/802959.shtml
>> 
>> >Chicago Indymdeia's Problem With Censorship
>> >Jackson Stonewall 12 May 2004 15:58 GMT 
>> >  
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Chicago Indymedia is off the wall, their censorship
>> problem is just as obvious as below
>> >
>> >Chicago Indymdeia's Problem With Censorship 
>> >
>> >Chicago Indymedia is off the wall, their censorship
>> problem is just as obvious as below! 
>> >
>> >The unheard of censorship at Chicago's Indymedia
>> has gone WAY out of control! They will welcome gay &
>> lesbian material with open arms. They openly delete
>> articles that are focused on regaining American
>> principles and standards, not to mention ANYTHING
>> with a religious overtone of the slightest nature
>> unless it¹s Buddhist, Jewish, satanic, critical of
>> all American troops or patriots, or just almost
>> pornographic. 
>> >Who writes their standards? Everything is a Policy
>> Violation, but they offer no policies to be read
>> ANYWHERE on their site to even know if you might be
>> violating one. NO other Indymedia acts this way, 
>> >They also show blatantly discrimination against ALL
>> Christian postings, they forbid that someone might
>> actually learn a little truth. Much less rail
>> against churchianity and give real meat instead of
>> pabulum. Their problem IS just as obvious as above.
>> Some lawyers are looking into the problem. 
>> >How can we hope to ever get REAL America back with
>> censorship like Chicago observes. 
>> >Jackson Stonewall 
>> >
>> > e-mail:: j_stonewall at hotmail.com 
>> >
>> >add a comment on this article 
>> >
>> >
>> >What a fruitcake you are!
>> >
>> >reader 12.May.2004 16:57 
>> >
>> >
>> >No concrete example, just ranting and raving. 
>> >
>> >I am not from the chicago imc, yet in less than a
>> minute I found the editorial policy. 
>> >
>>
>> http://chicago.indymedia.org/mod/info/display/about/index.php#editorial
>> 
>> >
>> >That alone should show that little, if any, of what
>> you say is true, since you can't even get that
>> right. 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Chicago Indymedia.org CENSORED a number of my
>> posts!!!
>> >
>> >k.hawley 12.May.2004 18:00 
>> >
>> 
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