[CIMC-work] allegations of censorship

[Garth Liebhaber]

Don, Sam, all,


Egad!  I am appalled that Global still has that up!  It is 
such instant troll material that flies in the face of the 
Indymedia project!

Whatever the 'following post' is, we don't have it, and if 
anything, it was probably bait.  If one looks at what 
"Pastor Mike" has been posting, one would know.  He has 
solidly attained troll status, and an article that baits hardly 
puts him in the non-hiding camp.

We have attempted to interact with "Pastor Mike, aka 
"Jackson Stonewall", to explain why his racist, sexist, anti-
semitic, anti-palestinian, etc. christian identity articles are 
not welcome on Chicago IMC space.  It has gone nowhere 
and we are in a state of non-engagement with him.  Since 
then, we have received vulgar, nasty, and harrassing 
emails from him.  Definitely not very 'christian' emails, if 
one is supposed to love their enemys.

If it matters, his charges of us hiding 'christian' articles is 
bogus.  we just had several features on a fundraiser to 
send one of our volunteers, myself, with the Christian 
Peacemaker Teams (Mennonites) on a delegation to Iraq.

I urge Global, as well as all IMCs to hide "Pastor Mike's" 
articles.   Leaving such articles up is an insult to C-IMC.  
We would not leave the same up, if it was about another 
IMC.

Lastly, not sure who this KHawley person or article is.  it 
very well could have been a mistake, we don't make many, 
but it could have been.

peace,
garth liebhaber
Chicago IMC


1. I can find no record of this article, hidden, deleted, or 
otherwise on our
   site.  Does anyone know anything about it.

2. Should we attempt to straighten this out?

--Don
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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT)
 From: sam rossiter <ozzysamuk at yahoo.com>
To: imc-chicago at indymedia.org
Subject: [Imc-chicago] please rebut these allegations

Hi Chicago

I know it's tiresome but someone has been throwing 
accusations of
'censorship' around on the global newswire
  http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2004/05/
802959.shtml

Apparently you deleted the following post, It doesnt seem 
to break any
guidelines to me...  was it's deletion a mistake?

I think it would be good if one of you could answer the 
allegation on the
newswire, just to clear it up.

Cheers Sam 
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President George Bush is now declaring that he's terribly 
"shocked and
disturbed" over the photo "evidence" of the torture and 
murder of Iraqi
prisoners by their U.S.Marine captors.

But how can President Bush be shocked and disturbed by 
the torture and
murder of (*innocent until proven guilty!) Iraqis when 
President Bush is
actively and willingly involved in a conspiracy with Ariel 
Sharon and the
Israeli Govt. to abuse;torture and murder another group of 
Middle East
Arabs,namely the Palestinians!

Ariel Sharon is a documented "War Criminal" and "Mass 
Murdered" - President
Bush knows this only too well,as he also knows the history 
of Sharon's
"Secret Police" the Mossad and their ongoing genocidal 
program of illegal
arrests,torture and murder against the Palestinians. Yet 
even knowing all
these grisly facts, President Bush recently invited the 
infamous Ariel
Sharon to the White House and gave him the U.S.Govt.'s 
Red Carpet VIP
treatment!

President Bush also gave Sharon the U.S.Govt.s full 
support (financially &
militarily) to continue the Israeli Govt.s genocidal assault 
on the
indigenous Palestinians - which means more illegal 
arrests, more torture
and more murders and more military assaults on 
Palestinian villages and
refugee camps - using (U.S.Tax-Payer supplied) 
tanks;helicopter gun-ships
and jet fightrers to achieve Sharon and the Israeli's Govt's. 
greedy and
evil objective.

So for President Bush to say that he's terribly "shocked 
and disturbed" by
the torture and murders that his US Marines carried out in 
Fallujah,when at
the same time he's helping Sahron and the Israeli Govt. 
commit the same and
worse "atrocities" against the Palestinians, is about as 
deep and genuine
as Bush's avowed and much hyped Christianity.

k.hawley
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