[CIMC-work] Fwd: [IMC-Process] handbook update(dateline 2-June 2004)

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Subject: [IMC-Process] handbook update(dateline 2-June 2004)
From: ferry Ben <la_toyax at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <20040520001448.39473.qmail at web51104.mail.yahoo.com>

can u please send a version at least translated to
spanish or portugues or any other languague then
english?
is part of the proposals process
thanks
toya
voce pode enviar uma versao traduzida pelo menos para
o espanhol ou portugues ou qualquer outra lingua?
faz parte do precesso para propostas
obrigada
toya

>    1. handbook update(dateline 2-June 2004)
> (valentine V eben)
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 
> From: "valentine V eben" <vally_x at lycos.com>
> CC: igap at ucimc.org, herblooser at yahoo.co.uk,
> gsf at tacticalmediafund.org
> To: imc-process at lists.indymedia.org,
> imc-print at lists.indymedia.org
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:13:03 -0400
> Subject: [IMC-Process] handbook update(dateline
> 2-June 2004)
> 
> Proposals/commentaries for the second edition of the
> handbook(dateline 2-June 2004)
> 
> In the last couple of weeks we had a very intensive
> discussion on the indymedia handbook printed in
> March 2004. As a results of that this discussion we
> are about to start work on the  next print. Thus if
> you have ideas you think you have to contributed
> please do send them in latest by 2rd June 2004. 
> 
> CHANGES TO BE MADE  ON THE MARCH 2004 EDITION
> -On the fact that it is written in the book 
> “published by indymedia” .  
> 1-Some activists think that the fact that the book
> simply contains network approved text from online
> indymedia resources and the fact that the original
> project was present to process and that the
> discussions/proof-reading of final material as well
> as decision of who should be the publisher was done
> in print-working-group it was correct to have
> written it like that. 
> 2-Some other activists disagree with this argument
> and think in a consensus network like indymedia for
> the book to have “published by
> indymedia” a more intensive network discussion
> needed to have been initiated on that point despite
> the content. Especially as this gives the false
> impression that 
> there is one central Indymedia.
> 3-To solve this conflicting positions an activist
> proposed that the future editions of the book will
> bear “published for indymedia” instead
> of “published by indymedia”. This will
> on the one hand avoid the content from appearing to
> be the property of someone who puts the material
> together in print format as the information belongs
> to indymedia. It will as well solve the problem of
> the probability of killing a project by waiting for
> all the more than 150imcs to get time off to reply
> to a request as to if a book with process approve
> online material in print format needs to have
> “published by indymedia” on it; this
> particularly in a context where we do not and never
> had such a kind of concensus on anything in the
> indymedia network not even the principles of unity
> or membership criteria we use.  
>    
> SOME CLARIFICATIONS ON ISSUES THAT CAME UP IN THE
> DISCUSSIONS
> -One activists pointed-out that his local IMC was
> planning to write/compile their own handbook. Which
> is a great idea yet which cannot be a reason for
> stopping the work on this particular Hand book. No
> one is imposing this particular book on the network
> or any local imc. If a local imc wishes to use this
> particular handbook or participate in improving it
> that is obviously welcome and has been the culture
> in the network; ranging from using different website
>  production systems to different types of mailing.
> 
> TRANSLATION 
> -This far we have volunteers doing translation in
> French and Portugese.
> Some activists also volunteered to do a translation
> into Mandarin for mainland Chinese. The issue with
> Spanish translation is presently being discussed.
> -On the translation issue GSF(Global South Fund if
> UCIMC) is ready to embark on a wide distribution of
> the book and thus translation. Which means for
> languages which we do not get a volunteers to help
> in translation, GSF will be ready to pay for
> translation, be it for a commercial translator or a
> volunteer if it gets to that. 
> 
> MONEY/NETWORK 
> -Yet I need to comment that this issue on
> translation let lose an old network discussion on
> paying for work people do for indymedia or generally
> money in the indymedia network. I’ll not write
> very long on that but will say this is a discussion
> that have been on and off in different formats in
> network lists as well as in network meetings. Some
> activists think:
> .It is simply unacceptable to ever pay anybody for
> them to do work for indymedia. Others think it is
> worth paying a little sums to people if that will
> make the thing get done as getting the thing done is
> necessary, And go one more step to emphasize that in
> situations where activists are paid for the work
> done like in some US-imcs the individuals are not
> paid the value of their work as per commercial terms
> rather a very small amount is paid for work that
> will normally cost enormous sums. 
> .There are some activists that believe if we cannot
> get the thing done then we should rather let it
> stand as the network has survived this far without
> the practice of paying for work. This argument is
> not exactly correct. While there is an enormous
> amount of volunteer work done on the network from
> the very beginning till now, every now and then
> people either directly involved in the network or
> not involved in the network have been paid for the
> work they do for the network.   
>  .Some IMCs think fund-raising parties, selling
> t-shirts/pins, films made by local imcs etc could be
> ways for IMCs to raisefunds to support themselves.
> Other imcs like IMC Thessalonika find this
> scandalous for an anarchists network to resort to
> such commercial activity in the name of self
> sustainment. Thus IMC Thessalonika activists sustain
> their imc by volunteer donations from activists. And
> they have been above water ever since, producing and
> distributing videos for free-of actions and other
> activities.
>  Money/resources is a very important topic in which
> we need an organised network discussion on. This
> cannot be solved by consoling ourselves that the
> other guy who tries to get things done by spending
> endless time in fundraising efforts is the strange
> guy. The other guy who seats in the side and engage
> the imc in commercial endevours and similar stuff is
> just trying to get her/his local imc self
> sustainable. At the sametime the other guy who
> leaves in an end of the globe where she/he can
> neither do fund-raising nor involve in commercial
> projects to sustain his imc has to play the
> permanent applicant at imc-finance and get a
> congress-hearing style question and answer session
> for it.   
> 
> PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE NEXT PRINT OF BOOK THIS FAR
> 
> 1.There have been a proposal to have region specific
> version. That is for example; for a Spanish version
> that will surely be distributed in South America it
> will be nice to add articles/reports on events and
> developments in that area that are more important to
> people in that area. 
> For activists in the UK it will make more sense to
> add in a UK specific version certain informations
> that could be more important for people around that
> area.
> Thus the way to deal with this will be to have those
> involved in distribution for specific area look of
> the area specific articles/report and get it
> incorporated. That particular version can  then
> added to the twiki pages so that those who wish to
> print that particular version can get access to it. 
> 
> 2.There have been a proposal to update the
> documentation to 
> included the recent changes that came into place
> since the womyn 
> proposal. Which implies replacing the old
> application form with the new that contains this
> changes.
> 
> 3. There was also the proposal to include a small 
> introduction/howto on twiki in future editions of
> the book especially as twiki is one of the main
> places where internal network developments are
> regularly updated.
> 
> 4.There was the proposal to include what mainstream
> media say about 
> indymedia in future edition.
> 
> Please take a while and look at the book as 
> it is and join the discussion on changes and
> improvements needed in the 
> future editions, in imc-print.
> 
> 
> 
> -Links to download book:
> http://www.hedonistpress.com/indymedia/
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/twiki/pub/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK/v1.1.pdf
> 
> -Link to page for book translation
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FirstEditionOfINDYMEDIAHANDBOOK
> 
> -link to newimc form including womyn proposal
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCForm
> 
> -link to what mainstream media say about indymedia
>
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/StoriesAboutIndymedia
> 
> 
> Dateline for reception of proposals for the next
> edition :2-june 2004
> 
> 
> 
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