[CIMC-work] Fwd: [imc-us-process] Indybay response and moving on

[Chris Kaihatsu]

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Subject: [imc-us-process] Indybay response and moving on
From: sfschism at riseup.net
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello.
First off, the SF Bay IMC wishes to thank Hep and the rest of the people
in the SF group for finally turning over the indybay website after almost
a year of waiting on this end.  If nothing else, it shows that, while the
SF-IMC is still unwilling to ever meet the terms of the mediation
agreement primarily orchestrated by Gekked, Noah and Nessie in the form of
a "our-way-or-no-way proposal", it did finally see the wisdom of turning
over the website that has become a focal point of activity for so many
people in the Bay Area community.  In other words, better late than never.
 We apologize that the response is later than intended (we understand how
frustrating it must be to wait 4 weeks for a response after the months
we've sat wondering and waiting ourselves), but it was difficult to know
how to respond to so many of the vicious allegations in Hep's first
dispatch to the list
[http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-us-process/2004-April/000639.html].
 Personally, most of it was too ridiculous and sickening to even address,
and remains so today.  So, we'll stick to the basics:

We have decided as a collective that we are tired of waiting to ever see
the fulfillment of the mediation agreement, and that we obviously have
more important things to work on and put our energy into, as evidenced by
the website itself.  So, we shall take what we can get, and hope that the
several members of SF-IMC are someday able to take a hard look at the
decisions they have made over the past year and how they have affected the
community around them.  In all sincerity, we hope that it leads them
someplace positive.  It has certainly taught us hard lessons that we
probably couldn't have learned otherwise, lessons that we have since been
able to put into practice.

In regard to the moot issue of press passes, the San Francisco Bay Area
Indymedia Center will once more and for the final time reiterate its
position: currently, we are working to get new press passes for our
reporters from the SFPD, with the help of lawyers from EFF and the First
Ammendment Project.  This is in part due to the fact that we have serious
concerns with Nessie, the sole press card holder in the SF group, using a
press pass that holds the SF Bay IMC - currently, as always, on file with
the SFPD - responsible for his actions.  I don't think I need to explain
why.  In addition, we are currently in the process of taking on the CHP in
regard to our old revoked press passes.  None of this should have any
affect on the SF group's attempts to obtain their own press passes,
though, based on their own journalistic merit, especially since the SFPD
has been made aware of the split, as outlined in our mediation, by Peter
Maiden, as promised.  In the meantime, as we work to get new press passes
through legal channels as opposed to the illegal demands made on us by the
SF group, or old press passes continue to be valid, and we have decided as
a gesture of goodwill, we will allow Nessie to keep his press pass until
he can get a new one or it expires.  We trust that he realizes the
consequences of abusing his press pass while it is still in our name.  We
have upheld our end of the mediation agreement, as evidenced by the
pictures of the mediation agreement uploaded to the web, and we are so
very ready to move on with our lives as individuals and as a collective. 
Enough is enough.

>From now on, we would like to continue to focus our efforts on being a
kick-ass media collective, taking on far greater enemies in the current
grave global crisis.  We won't respond to petty attacks, and at this
point, while we could defend incessant jabs like, "We never wanted the
split!  It was all Indybay!" with outraged reprisals, either everyone
already knows the truth anyway, or they just don't care or have time to
bother with wading through all of the b.s. Our desire to focus on our work
together outweighs our outrage.  We hope that the SF group can see the
common sense and eventual fruitfullness of such a philosophy.  Perhaps
someday the network can talk about this conflict in hindsight as as means
of ensuring that something like it never happens again, but it is obvious
that today isn't that day.

On a final note, we request that the SF-IMC no longer use "snipped" and
"edited" excerpts from the private internal list that Gekked deleted as
soon as the last mediation session ended.  Not only is it unethical, but
unfortunately, our group does not have access to those archives anymore
due to Gekked's decision and it is unfair to use them as "reference
points" when you're the only one who can.  We would appreciate cooperation
with this request.

That's it.  Looking forward to seeing this list used for more productive
things, as already initiated by several people.

paz,
Sunny
SF Bay IMC
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