[IMC-Editorial] Consensus breakdown at Global features

Thu May 27 15:47:10 PDT 2004

RE: [www-features] HIDDEN - New book advances case for Bush regime 
complicity...

In all the time i've worked here at Indy Global Features (which is longer 
than most of you), i've never seen a piece CENSORED because editors don't 
happen to agree with speculations made by individuals in the feature. I'm 
not promoting the guy's theories, i was merely using the book as a hook to 
recent 9/11 news! What Are you afraid of??
Never mind that no one spoke up during the 7 or 8 hours the proposal sat on 
the list!  I can't believe my fucking eyes! Josh, you of all people, should 
know better. Consensus just went out the window and i guess i'm going right 
along w/it. How could you pull the piece w/o waiting til i got back on line 
as i said i would this morning! This is THE biggest fucking travesty i've 
ever experienced at Indymedia.

d.o.

>From: Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at indymedia.org>
>To: www-features at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: [www-features] HIDDEN - New book advances case for Bush regimeco
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:31:26 -0400
>
>With this support, I hid the feature. We can debate whether or not
>the twin towers were brought down because of flimsy construction or a
>controlled demolition, or whether a plane or a missile hit the
>Pentagon, but if Political Research Associates is against something I
>need a really strong reason to support it.
>
>For those who don't know, "Political Research Associates is an
>independent, nonprofit research center that studies antidemocratic,
>authoritarian, and other oppressive movements, institutions, and
>trends." I am personally familiar with this organization and have the
>absolute highest respect for their work.
>
>  From the PRA review of the book:
>"Griffin chides progressive political analyst Rahul Mahajan because
>Mahajan has argued that the Bush administration reacted quickly  to
>the events of 09/11/01 in an opportunistic way that did not  require
>a conspiracy in advance (pp. xvi-xvii, xxiii). Ultimately  Griffin
>does not provide a progressive analysis such as that provided  by
>Mahajan. Griffin provides a centrist or right-wing populist
>explanation that if deconstructed suggests that an otherwise
>acceptable  political and economic system has been distorted by a
>conspiracy  of secret elites. There is not structural, systemic, or
>institutional  analysis."
>
>
>Josh
>
>
>
>At 4:02 PM +0200 5/27/04, evan wrote:
> >I agree with josh. Actually i feel stronger. I think we should just
> >hide this feature and be done with it. There is nothing to be gained
> >by running this kind of feature and we DO loose our credibility with
> >this kind of coverage.
> >
> >This promotes the sale of a book, which isn't from the indymedia 
>movement.
> >
> >This feature is NOT based on a feature from a local imc.
> >
> >I do not think this is the kind of coverage we should be doing.
> >
> >I thought we had a principle of unity against promoting rightwing
> >perspectives.
> >
> >in solidarity,
> >evan
> >
> >On May 27, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Joshua Breitbart wrote:
> >
> >>Can we hide it while we have this discussion and rework the text?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 1:39 PM +0000 5/27/04, Tribal Scribal wrote:
> >>>I DO NOT agree, however i'm certainly willing to drop that sentence, 
>given
> >>>its editorial bent (sorry). The book & issue are very important and i'd 
>have
> >>>a big problem with hiding the whole feature.
> >>>
> >>>d.o.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at indymedia.org>
> >>>>To: features <www-features at lists.indymedia.org>
> >>>>Subject: [www-features] WOULD LIKE TO HIDE - New book advances case 
>for
> >>>>Bush regimecomplicity i
> >>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:25:06 -0400
> >>>>
> >>>>Sorry I didn't catch this in the 7 hour window, but for once I wasn't
> >>>>online in that time period.
> >>>>
> >>>>This article's assessment of the debate on Democracy Now! directly
> >>>>contradicts the assessment others have given me, who said he got
> >>>>shredded. And I have 100% faith in the people at Political Research
> >>>>Associates. So I think this feature is basically bullshit and should
> >>>>be removed.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any seconds?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Josh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>At 8:01 AM -0500 5/27/04, Modemand Guitar wrote:
> >>>>>changed tiny typo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  its' = its
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>done
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>From: "Tribal Scribal" <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com>
> >>>>>>>To: www-features at lists.indymedia.org
> >>>>>>>Subject: [www-features] PROPOSED - New book advances case for Bush
> >>>>>>>regimecomplicity in 9/11 attacks
> >>>>>>>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:57:41 +0000
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Header: U.S. : Rightwing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Title: New book advances case for Bush regime complicity in 9/11
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