[IMC-Editorial] Re: Warning! Aryan nations using your bandwidth!!! -from Boston IMC

Danyl Strype strypey at riseup.net
Mon May 31 16:54:07 PDT 2004


Kia ora,

I can see Vancouver's point of view. Ideological censorship
is a slippery slope and in itself threatens the co-operation
between diverse radical elements that makes up Indymedia.
One we establish that it's ok to censor fascists, then
people start calling to censor christians or marxists or
whoever.

On the other hand I agree it is unacceptable for ANY group
to leach Indymedia's resources to push their own ideology
whether fascist, anarchist or whatever. Indymedia is a NEWS
and ANALYSIS service, not a soap box. So I think the careful
wording of editorial policies needs to be used. If we are
purging ANYTHING from Indymedia databases we need to clearly
explain why in terms anyone (not just activists) can
understand. That's the reason for requiring a publicly
available editorial policy from any IMC affiliated to the
global network.

RnB,
Strypey

Quoting nessie at sfbg.com:

> This is not an isolated incident. Our enemies are using
> sites across 
> the network to broadcast their propaganda. In mongering
> propaganda, 
> and worse, appear even once, on even one IMC local, it
> discredits all 
> Indymedia and every IMCista. It directly infringes on our
> ability to 
> do authentic journalism and effective organizing. In
> journalism, 
> credibility is everything. If left unchecked, this will
> destroy 
> Indymedia. All the work we have done will have been for
> naught.
> 
> It's been particularly bad at Vancouver-IMC. I've been
> harassing them 
> about it for weeks, Before that, realizing that they
> might be short 
> handed, I offered to help. I'm good at editing. I keep
> SF-IMC troll 
> free. Our traffic reflects this. Quality content brings
> in regular 
> traffic. Trash drives away the very people we are trying
> hardest to 
> attract. Vancouver-IMC's editors didn't even have the
> common, human 
> decency to answer my email until after I called them in
> public. They 
> repeatedly defended their practice of permitting Nazi
> propaganda, and 
> worse, to be broadcast over their bandwidth, by saying
> "diversity is 
> beautiful."
> 
> When Nazi propaganda  is published under your name and
> logo, people 
> are going to assume that you, too are a Nazi sympathizer.
> This is a 
> fact of life. When Vancouver-IMC publishes this crap, it
> hurts *all* 
> of us, and all Indymedia. It must stop.
> 
> It's a global problem. It needs a global solution. That
> requires 
> global process. When I brought it up on the [imc-process]
> mailing 
> list, I was told to go away.
> 
> See:
> 
>
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-May/date.html
> 
> Now I don't know what to do. I subbed to the
> [imc-editorial] list in 
> hopes that there would be people here discussing IMC
> editorial 
> policy. Instead, until this email, I saw nothing but ad
> spam. We 
> could change that by beginning to discuss here this
> crucial issue.
> 
> What are we going to do about Indymedia's reputation, and
> our own, 
> being destroyed by misuse of our name and logo by our
> mortal enemies? 
> There must be some solution. What is it?
> 
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